Quotes from a Wise Man

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

lets not get into this... nobody will win...that is not what the thread is about...

Yup .. moreover, Human beings are like that: take a large group of person who have same religion, same color, same amount of money, same rights and so on ... they will ALWAYS find a good reason to fight.

Back on topic: I find this quotes more funny than wise, but these are good ones!!!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

It's not about winning. It's about free expression. I respect Reagan a great deal, but please don't limit the discussion of what he said. He's a true example of great American leadership. I'm only pointing out that his views of religion in government can lead to problems in society. I don't think that's so dangerous.

Professor Francisco, a well-published political scientist at KU, said in one of my classes that the best way to create an atheist state is to institute a state religion. That way, no one will want to follow it.

do you agree that is the morality that religon promotes that is the basis for all out most fundemental laws? All of the major religons have the same basic rules....

All the constitution says is the Government will not make a national religion, it says nothing about not using any religous beliefs in Goverment to actually run the government by...By the way,that means any religion, not just christianity. The people in power use their religous beliefs and always will to decide how to govern.. even if they do not say it, subconsiously they use them.
I would rather a President Quote Scripture (from whatever bible he uses)when he explains a decision he has made than one that just says that is what he thinks.

[nester7929]

Originally Posted by Bumble Bee '77

I agree with all of those with the exception of the religious part. Not trying to start anything but religion is one of the biggest reasons for war. State and church...Keep them separate like the Constitution says.

I disagree. Politics, disguised as religion, is one of the most common reasons for war.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by nester7929

I disagree. Politics, disguised as religion, is one of the most common reasons for war.

Agreed,

See crusades.

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by nester7929

I disagree. Politics, disguised as religion, is one of the most common reasons for war.

Actually, the worst ideologies of the 20th century were anti religious: communism and nazism.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Back on topic: I find this quotes more funny than wise, but these are good ones!!!

If you think deeply about each one of these he was trying to make a point but sometimes he was just trying to be funny....

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Good to see some quotes of one of my fraternity brothers. RIP Frater Reagan.

[nester7929]

Originally Posted by Punk_rider

Actually, the worst ideologies of the 20th century were anti religious: communism and nazism.

Communism and National Socialism weren't anti-religious in and of themselves. Communism doesn't oppose religion, it was the personal views of the founders of the Soviet Union that did. As for the Nazi party, Hitler himself was a Christian and read the Bible regularly (although apparently reading comprehension wasn't his strong suite). Hitler blamed the Jews for the instability of Germany after the Treaty of Versailles destroyed Germany's economy, and pursued genocide as revenge. It wasn't because of religion, but because of racism and scapegoating.

[JaysonAych]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Remember that most of those who designed the US government were neither religious nor observant. While there are exceptions that I'm sure someone will point out in opposition to this post, the truth is that morality and religion are 2 very different things. It is possible for a person to be virtuous and only believe in Aristotle's philosophies without actually believing in God. Faith is a very powerful and dangerous thing when used inappropriately; and a very righteous, saving force when used strictly spiritually.

[TheMadHatter99]

Reagan was the man...probably the greatest president of modern times.