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Old 03-03-2015, 04:18 PM   #1
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getting tune for your SS

ok, I get it. mod your vehicle and then get a tune to get the most out of the mods. if you DO NOT do any mods, does a tune help the performance of you car in any way????
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:21 PM   #2
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Yes it does, but you would be lucky to get more than 15 or 20 whp from it without mods. Then when you do your mods you'll need to re-tune it.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:32 PM   #3
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Yes it does, but you would be lucky to get more than 15 or 20 whp from it without mods. Then when you do your mods you'll need to re-tune it.
I am not going to mods. do you suggest a tune or should I just buy crown royal with that money????
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:35 PM   #4
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I am not going to mods. do you suggest a tune or should I just buy crown royal with that money????
Unless you want to void your drivetrain warranty, don't tune it. I think most would agree!
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:36 PM   #5
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I am not going to mods. do you suggest a tune or should I just buy crown royal with that money????
Honestly, I would do it if your not going to do any mods, but thats just me. Tuning was the first thing I did with my car. However I had the tools and resources to work on the car myself at the time, so I could play with it and learn.

Curious as to why you dont want to mod your SS, is there any specific reason for that?

Keep in mind that that HP estimate is on the high side.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:38 PM   #6
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ok, I get it. mod your vehicle and then get a tune to get the most out of the mods. if you DO NOT do any mods, does a tune help the performance of you car in any way????
From what I gather if you have an auto then the change is pretty dramatic. If you have a manual there will be less of a noticeable difference.
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Unless you want to void your drivetrain warranty, don't tune it. I think most would agree!
Thats not necessarily true, many people have had plenty of warranty work done to their cars and have been tuned. Search the forums a little.

You will most certainly void your warranty, yet if the failure was not related or caused by your aftermarket modification then your good....granted your with a decent car dealership.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:41 PM   #8
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I am not going to mods. do you suggest a tune or should I just buy crown royal with that money????
Buy some Crown Royal. The tune is going to need to be updated if you change your mind later, meaning you'll have to spend extra for marginal benefit.
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Thats not necessarily true, many people have had plenty of warranty work done to their cars and have been tuned. Search the forums a little.

You will most certainly void your warranty, yet if the failure was not related or caused by your aftermarket modification then your good....granted your with a decent car dealership.
I know to a degree what you said, and I know this is discussed every day over and over but my understanding is if his engine blew for some random reason even without mods, when GM sees the tune he doesn't get a new engine. I know that the tune has nothing to do with bad radio or exhaust, but I'm more worried about engine going out as high dollar repair. That's why I thinking it would be the biggest risk to tune for no mods, for relatively small gain. Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I still think the issue of warranty work is something be should definitely keep in mind if tuning even with no mods.
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I know to a degree what you said, and I know this is discussed every day over and over but my understanding is if his engine blew for some random reason even without mods, when GM sees the tune he doesn't get a new engine. I know that the tune has nothing to do with bad radio or exhaust, but I'm more worried about engine going out as high dollar repair. That's why I thinking it would be the biggest risk to tune for no mods, for relatively small gain. Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I still think the issue of warranty work is something be should definitely keep in mind if tuning even with no mods.
This is hotly debated, but the facts are that a computer controls engine operation. If that tune causes a malfunction or reduces the durability of that engine, failures in that engine that result are not the manufacturer's problem.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:52 PM   #11
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I know to a degree what you said, and I know this is discussed every day over and over but my understanding is if his engine blew for some random reason even without mods, when GM sees the tune he doesn't get a new engine. I know that the tune has nothing to do with bad radio or exhaust, but I'm more worried about engine going out as high dollar repair. That's why I thinking it would be the biggest risk to tune for no mods, for relatively small gain. Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I still think the issue of warranty work is something be should definitely keep in mind if tuning even with no mods.

The risk of tuning for mods, VS no mods is minimal, basic bolt-ons are really no big deal, your tune will be changing basically the same parameters that it would change if you had the mods, just not to the same degree.

The dealer isnt going to care if you modded your car with a tune only compared to mods and a tune. To them its all the same....basically.
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The risk of tuning for mods, VS no mods is minimal, basic bolt-ons are really no big deal, your tune will be changing basically the same parameters that it would change if you had the mods, just not to the same degree.

The dealer isnt going to care if you modded your car with a tune only compared to mods and a tune. To them its all the same....basically.
I know, but how do you know you didn't get a dud engine that is gonna blow at 5k miles, and you got a tune (for no mods even!), and GM says sorry!?

I mean, I guess I'm playing worst case scenario and the dealer won't even realize you tuned it, I'm just going worst case that engine needs replaced, etc, the big stuff.
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Get a quality tune. You're far away but reach out to Tampa Tuning - Phil can help. The tune he put on my SS just woke it up. The street tune on the motor and A6 tranny makes it way more fun to drive and we killed the AFM......sounded great before I did any mods. These cars are way more fun and powerful than the factory sends out.....
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I know, but how do you know you didn't get a dud engine that is gonna blow at 5k miles, and you got a tune (for no mods even!), and GM says sorry!?

I mean, I guess I'm playing worst case scenario and the dealer won't even realize you tuned it, I'm just going worst case that engine needs replaced, etc, the big stuff.
If your thinking is that as long as your mods, or lack of, are minimal, GM wont notice or mind, then you're wrong. GM will notice you tuned it. As soon as they plug in their scanner they can tell that its been modified, it won't matter to what degree its been changed, its still altered.
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