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IneedAZ · 05-15-2012, 05:45 PM

What are the differences between the waterless wash and the detail spray since neither add protection to the finish. Just trying to figure out if i really need both.

thanks

jeffny09 · 05-15-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

What are the differences between the waterless wash and the detail spray since neither add protection to the finish. Just trying to figure out if i really need both.

thanks

Waterless wash is jist that..to wash ur car when it is lightly dusted..u would use detail spray after to give it a shine

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IneedAZ · 05-15-2012, 06:06 PM

Would u bother waterless wash if u use a California duster for light dusting? Seems like it would
cheaper that way then use detail spray as needed. Of course the duster wont do much for love bugs.

jeffny09 · 05-15-2012, 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=IneedAZ;4967597]Would u bother waterless wash if u use a California duster for light dusting? Seems like it would
cheaper that way then use detail spray as needed. Of course the duster wont do much for love bugs.[/QUOTEim not a fan of the cali duster..i use it here n there but u gotta use it a certain way so that it dont scratch ur paint. The waterless wash does a better job then the duster..but u gotta use the waffle weave.towels with it

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IneedAZ · 05-15-2012, 06:15 PM

ok, thanks for the replies, guess the real question whats different in Adams waterless wash and Mequiars quick mist and wipe. I already have two bottles of that, would like to hear from anyone that has tried both.

thanks

babaron · 05-15-2012, 06:26 PM

ww has more lubricity but no gloss enhancer. ds has gloss enhancers but not as much lubricity.

Adam's Polishes · 05-15-2012, 06:49 PM

babaron covered it.

Basically the base of the 2 chemicals is identical... where they start to differ is with the additives.

Detail Spray leaves a gloss enhancer behind that will give you paint a little added shine.

Waterless doesn't have that gloss enhancer, instead its replaced by a high lubricity emulsifier that makes dust removal safer.

Basically you'd use Waterless for dust removal, Detail Spray for adding gloss. Figuring that you'll do dust removal more often than needing gloss waterless makes more sense as it costs less per oz.

motorhead · 05-15-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan@Adams

babaron covered it.

Basically the base of the 2 chemicals is identical... where they start to differ is with the additives.

Detail Spray leaves a gloss enhancer behind that will give you paint a little added shine.

Waterless doesn't have that gloss enhancer, instead its replaced by a high lubricity emulsifier that makes dust removal safer.

Basically you'd use Waterless for dust removal, Detail Spray for adding gloss. Figuring that you'll do dust removal more often than needing gloss waterless makes more sense as it costs less per oz.

Why do you guys recommend using detail spray to clay with instead of waterless wash? If it's slippier wouldn't it be better to use for claying?

IneedAZ · 05-15-2012, 07:13 PM

Good question !

Adam's Polishes · 05-15-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Why do you guys recommend using detail spray to clay with instead of waterless wash? If it's slippier wouldn't it be better to use for claying?

a tad too slippery is the problem... it works a little too well at keeping the clay moving and doesn't allow it to work as it should. The only times I've used waterless to successfully clay is when claying wet, and with a good amount of water on the surface as it seemed to cut down on the slickness by diluting the waterless.

the detail spray has just the right amount of 'slip' to it that allows the clay to slide, but not so much that it doesn't work.

motorhead · 05-16-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan@Adams

a tad too slippery is the problem... it works a little too well at keeping the clay moving and doesn't allow it to work as it should. The only times I've used waterless to successfully clay is when claying wet, and with a good amount of water on the surface as it seemed to cut down on the slickness by diluting the waterless.

the detail spray has just the right amount of 'slip' to it that allows the clay to slide, but not so much that it doesn't work.

I gotcha! makes loads of sense...

ActNup NY · 05-16-2012, 06:44 PM

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Waterless wash is jist that..to wash ur car when it is lightly dusted..u would use detail spray after to give it a shine

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I agree !

05-15-2012, 05:45 PM	#1
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05-15-2012, 06:06 PM	#3
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	Would u bother waterless wash if u use a California duster for light dusting? Seems like it would cheaper that way then use detail spray as needed. Of course the duster wont do much for love bugs. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

05-15-2012, 06:08 PM	#4
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05-15-2012, 06:15 PM	#5
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	ok, thanks for the replies, guess the real question whats different in Adams waterless wash and Mequiars quick mist and wipe. I already have two bottles of that, would like to hear from anyone that has tried both. thanks __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

05-15-2012, 06:26 PM	#6
babaron Totally into it Drives: '67 427vette/'11 Pacecar/'02 BMW ci Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 653 View My Garage	ww has more lubricity but no gloss enhancer. ds has gloss enhancers but not as much lubricity. __________________ ____________________________________THERE MUST BE A SUPPORT GROUP FOR THIS ADDICTION. AM I IN THE RIGHT PLACE?

05-15-2012, 06:49 PM	#7
Adam's Polishes Drives: The shiny ones. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In the detail shop! Posts: 5,979	babaron covered it. Basically the base of the 2 chemicals is identical... where they start to differ is with the additives. Detail Spray leaves a gloss enhancer behind that will give you paint a little added shine. Waterless doesn't have that gloss enhancer, instead its replaced by a high lubricity emulsifier that makes dust removal safer. Basically you'd use Waterless for dust removal, Detail Spray for adding gloss. Figuring that you'll do dust removal more often than needing gloss waterless makes more sense as it costs less per oz.

05-15-2012, 07:13 PM	#9
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	Good question ! __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive