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Maroon 6.2L SS · 07-21-2019, 07:55 PM

Hey all. I've got a 2010 A6 with most major bolt ons and most major suspension parts and drag radials. I'm thinking about one last upgrade (yah right). Just wanted to get a little opinion on what ya'll would do and the price difference vs bang for buck. Would you do a cam or gears?

Roader · 07-21-2019, 08:05 PM

Do you have a TC and a budget? Cam and TC are going to be 5x the cost. If money not an issue I’m going with cam first

zz430camaro · 07-21-2019, 08:07 PM

Cam, converter and gears. You really need all of them to make it work, just need to decide which one first. I would do cam and converter together so if I was you I would do gears first. You need a converter with the cam unless its a small cam.

PhantomBlack · 07-22-2019, 08:00 AM

I did SS1 cam and 3.91 gears at the same time, I'm enjoying it a lot.
Might do a converter next year just to see what the hype is about.
If you can only do one now most would say stall first, if it were me I'd do a cam first if it's small.

Redgt03 · 07-22-2019, 08:43 AM

If you are not going to do a converter, then do gears from now. Then save up for the cam/converter swap.

Chris49066SS · 07-22-2019, 12:22 PM

3.91 gears if not doing it all together

Then cam and a converter with appropriate spec to go with the cam.

I did them all at once. My mods are in my build thread if you care to see how I did it.

PepeLePew · 07-22-2019, 01:39 PM

bang for the buck huh?

I agree with Chris. About $1200-$1600 for gears.

Then Cam and Converter. Shop will charge $3500-$4500 for cam and AFM/DOD delete and tune depending on what supporting stuff you do at the same time tunions, oil pump, etc. Converter is another $2000 at a shop... so $5500-$6500 total.

I say if you are gonna put it in the shop to get some work done, go ahead and do it all at the same time to get the most out of it. With about 450whp and the other supporting mods, you can get this car in the low 11s maybe high 10s if conditions are perfect!!!

Maroon 6.2L SS · 07-22-2019, 02:52 PM

Thanks everyone!!! I'm still learning. Didn't know that it was probably best to do a stall and cam together, and definitely didn't realize the price of each installed. Looks like the best bet will be to do the gears and start saving for a cam/stall in the future if I decide to go that route.

Chris49066SS · 07-22-2019, 03:37 PM

With the cam, its also best to do the C5R Katech timing chain, dogbone dampener, and the trunnion upgrade. Lifters and new baskets, the proper length pushrods, hollow stem LS3 valves, some good springs, etc. Advice is to just get with GPI and they can get you a kit that matches your goals. Not to mention the transmission cooler to keep the heat under control from that converter. And then the BR30 break in oil. And if you make it over to the West Coast, go to Wongs

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I got you covered, Christianchevelle, did I miss anything?

Roader · 07-22-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

With the cam, its also best to do the C5R Katech timing chain, dogbone dampener, and the trunnion upgrade. Lifters and new baskets, the proper length pushrods, hollow stem LS3 valves, some good springs, etc. Advice is to just get with GPI and they can get you a kit that matches your goals. Not to mention the transmission cooler to keep the heat under control from that converter. And then the BR30 break in oil. And if you make it over to the West Coast, go to Wongs

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I got you covered, Christianchevelle, did I miss anything?

about 2 paragraphs

go_go_gadget88 · 07-22-2019, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

With the cam, its also best to do the C5R Katech timing chain, dogbone dampener, and the trunnion upgrade. Lifters and new baskets, the proper length pushrods, hollow stem LS3 valves, some good springs, etc. Advice is to just get with GPI and they can get you a kit that matches your goals. Not to mention the transmission cooler to keep the heat under control from that converter. And then the BR30 break in oil. And if you make it over to the West Coast, go to Wongs

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I got you covered, Christianchevelle, did I miss anything?

I see no mention of being an old school chevy rodder anywhere in your post though

hunter1660 · 07-22-2019, 05:03 PM

LOL

frey.199 · 07-22-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 6.2L SS

Hey all. I've got a 2010 A6 with most major bolt ons and most major suspension parts and drag radials. I'm thinking about one last upgrade (yah right). Just wanted to get a little opinion on what ya'll would do and the price difference vs bang for buck. Would you do a cam or gears?

Cam will be more expensive than gears, but I'd go cam.

Cam+ supporting mods that is

Maroon 6.2L SS · 07-22-2019, 07:04 PM

Great post Chris!!! We're like kids in a candy store with our cars. Kinda like girls needing 50 pairs of shoes for every occasion. I'm thinking just wear a black pair, that'll cover everything!!! They're like us. If I get to the point where I sell my fishing boat I will definitely go crazy with adding mods to the car.

07-21-2019, 07:55 PM	#1
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	Which one would you do? Hey all. I've got a 2010 A6 with most major bolt ons and most major suspension parts and drag radials. I'm thinking about one last upgrade (yah right). Just wanted to get a little opinion on what ya'll would do and the price difference vs bang for buck. Would you do a cam or gears?

07-21-2019, 08:07 PM	#3
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	Cam, converter and gears. You really need all of them to make it work, just need to decide which one first. I would do cam and converter together so if I was you I would do gears first. You need a converter with the cam unless its a small cam. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

07-22-2019, 08:43 AM	#5
Redgt03 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Peoria Posts: 254	If you are not going to do a converter, then do gears from now. Then save up for the cam/converter swap. __________________ 2011 SS -GPI SS3 vvt, circle D 4c, 3.91 gears, solo mach xl exhaust, speed engineering headers, bo white ported throttle body, Roto fab intake, adm transcooler, elite catch can

07-22-2019, 12:22 PM	#6
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,634	3.91 gears if not doing it all together Then cam and a converter with appropriate spec to go with the cam. I did them all at once. My mods are in my build thread if you care to see how I did it. __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

07-22-2019, 01:39 PM	#7
PepeLePew Drives: 2010 2SS Coupe; 2011 2LT Vert Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Prosper, TX Posts: 458	bang for the buck huh? I agree with Chris. About $1200-$1600 for gears. Then Cam and Converter. Shop will charge $3500-$4500 for cam and AFM/DOD delete and tune depending on what supporting stuff you do at the same time tunions, oil pump, etc. Converter is another $2000 at a shop... so $5500-$6500 total. I say if you are gonna put it in the shop to get some work done, go ahead and do it all at the same time to get the most out of it. With about 450whp and the other supporting mods, you can get this car in the low 11s maybe high 10s if conditions are perfect!!! __________________ 2010 2SS/RS LS3 - K&N, GM Performance Axle Back, Hurst Shifter, TSP 1 7/8ths long tubes no cats, TSP Stage 2 "Bald Eagle" cam, GM 3.91, 466whp/429tq

07-21-2019, 08:05 PM	#2
Roader Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Alabama Posts: 673	Do you have a TC and a budget? Cam and TC are going to be 5x the cost. If money not an issue I’m going with cam first

07-22-2019, 08:00 AM	#4
PhantomBlack Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 181	I did SS1 cam and 3.91 gears at the same time, I'm enjoying it a lot. Might do a converter next year just to see what the hype is about. If you can only do one now most would say stall first, if it were me I'd do a cam first if it's small.

07-22-2019, 02:52 PM	#8
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	Thanks everyone!!! I'm still learning. Didn't know that it was probably best to do a stall and cam together, and definitely didn't realize the price of each installed. Looks like the best bet will be to do the gears and start saving for a cam/stall in the future if I decide to go that route.

07-22-2019, 03:37 PM	#9
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,634	With the cam, its also best to do the C5R Katech timing chain, dogbone dampener, and the trunnion upgrade. Lifters and new baskets, the proper length pushrods, hollow stem LS3 valves, some good springs, etc. Advice is to just get with GPI and they can get you a kit that matches your goals. Not to mention the transmission cooler to keep the heat under control from that converter. And then the BR30 break in oil. And if you make it over to the West Coast, go to Wongs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I got you covered, Christianchevelle, did I miss anything? __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

07-22-2019, 05:03 PM	#12
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	LOL __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

07-22-2019, 07:04 PM	#14
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	Great post Chris!!! We're like kids in a candy store with our cars. Kinda like girls needing 50 pairs of shoes for every occasion. I'm thinking just wear a black pair, that'll cover everything!!! They're like us. If I get to the point where I sell my fishing boat I will definitely go crazy with adding mods to the car.