01-07-2009, 04:34 PM | #71 |
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Okay, you know what, I refrained from saying anything in the “Saleen trashed the Camaro” thread, but enough is enough. While everyone is entitled to their own opinion and is free to buy whatever car they want and, if they desire to do so, have it massaged by an aftermarket tuner, some things need to be said.
One. If you watch the YouTube video where Steve Saleen was addressing the crowd at a gathering of Mustang aficionados, it is true that the Camaro was the focus of his humor. However, if you really believe that he was trying to take credit for the design and engineering of the car, then you are really, really reaching. Like others have already pointed out, he was simply stating that he “built” the Camaro used in the Transformers movie (which he did, based on the templates provided to him by GM, on a different cars chassis). What would you expect from someone who has been invited to speak to a bunch of Mustang owners? A diatribe about how great GM products are? How many of you on this forum, let alone at a gathering of Camaro-specific enthusiasts, poke fun and take pot-shots at the Mustang and Ford? Two. I am confident that the vast majority of people who have said they would not buy a Saleen Camaro or purchase any of the parts he is going to offer for that car are not basing that decision off anything remotely related to how the final version of the Saleen Camaro will look/perform. They are basing their decision on the mere fact that, in the past, Saleen chose to build his cars around the Mustang platform. Although it is a very flimsy reason, so be it. However, I will let you know that the vast majority of the people who are likely to hold that opinion are not in the target demographic that Steve Saleen is going after, so I’m not sure that the money you don’t plan to spend on his products will ever be missed. Three. I am a fan of the earlier fox-body based Saleen Mustangs but, like many others I know, I was not a big fan of a his SN-95 based cars and even less so of the 2005-2009 versions of the S197 platform. I consider his later cars too flashy, busy and over-the-top for my tastes. Four. Saleen did/does a whole lot more than simply modify Mustangs. If you will actually take the time to read about the man and all the things he does, you’d be surprised on how much knowledge he has and what he has brought to the table in terms of aftermarket performance. If you think all that Saleen brings to the table is a body kit and some go-fast aftermarket goodies for Mustangs, then I suggest you take a look at the S7. Five. From a business perspective, Steve is doing exactly what he needs to do to position his company for continued success and bring his own unique visions to the marketplace. Not only is this good for Steve Saleen, but it’s great for the domestic automobile industry as a whole. If you hold such a myopic view of things that you cannot see this, then I can do nothing but simply feel sorry for you. |
01-07-2009, 04:39 PM | #72 |
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Value sells cars. Saleen wouldn't do squat for the car.
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01-07-2009, 04:46 PM | #73 |
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I know that Steve Saleen has quite a bit of knowledge of cars and how they work. I recognize that he had the S7 designed and built when he was still with his company. I would love to own a S351 (the one year they made of it).
I don't take potshots at mustangs because I respect them and the people that drive them. I wish him well with his new business. But if you're going to trashtalk something, then turn around and say you're going to offer your own version of it, you can suck a fat one... |
01-07-2009, 04:47 PM | #74 |
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I know that Steve Saleen trashed the Camaro, but part of me wants to see the Camaro.
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01-07-2009, 04:52 PM | #75 |
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Actually, his versions have added value. You CANNOT buy a used Saleen for the same price as a used GT (in like condition).
I looked at a '93 Saleen #54 last weekend. $20K. It will bring close to that as this car is near perfect. However, no '93 GT I've ever seen would bring within $10K of that. I'm not a huge fan of his don't get me wrong. He nearly put the whole crowd to sleep at the Mid America Ford meet a few years back. I do, however, have a lot of respect for someone who starts their own Supercar from scratch. How many american supercars are there? 4. And three are from the big three. |
01-07-2009, 04:56 PM | #76 |
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hey I didn't know their headquarters was in anaheim.... thats right by my house
I wanna see what the car looks like, even though I wouldn't buy one or can afford one
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I do to, just not with the one car he dislikes...
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01-07-2009, 05:01 PM | #78 |
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Saleen screwed the pooch when he opened his pie-hole.
He chose his side now let him live with it. Let Tom Henry mod your car, it'll gofast and won't look...Saleen'd |
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01-07-2009, 05:15 PM | #81 |
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Ill pass on anything "Saleen." Its overpriced stick on parts at best IMO. Shelby is much better bang for your buck for name recognition.
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01-07-2009, 05:20 PM | #83 |
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Ask our mod Tag UR It. He's working a little deal with him.
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01-07-2009, 05:32 PM | #84 |
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Saleen stick to your stangs', leave my maro alone.
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