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joes2010SS · 12-04-2017, 04:28 PM

Hi All, I purchased a 2010 camaro ss.

Reading around the forums and its been a great help but, I am thinking of switching to e85 or flex fuel.

Currently has the 85# fast injectors and zl1 pump and ADM FPCM. I am under standing that I need to most likely upgrade my injectors. I was thinking FIC 1000's. Would the zl1 pump be good enough if I get a Boost a Pump. I'm looking to reach over 700RWHP/750RWHP. Anything else I should purchase?

I have done some research but its pretty conflicting. I also don't have a local tuner to talk to yet. I do have somebody I'm going to be talking to in a month or two.

Stock bottom end LS3 376ci w/Manual 6 speed
Brian Tooley Racing PD Stage 3 Cam
Brian Tooley Racing .660 Springs
Brian Tooley Racing 7.400" 3/8" Pushrods
LSA Supercharger
2.50" Upper Pulley (10.5lbs of boost)
Straub Technologies Solid Trunion Kit
Melling High Pressure Oil Pump
85lb Fast Fuel Injectors
ZL1 Fuel Pump
ADM Fuel Pressure Control Module
ADM Cold Air Intake
Lingenfelter Dual Fan Heat Exchanger with thermostat
1 7/8'' Long Tube Headers w/Offroad Cats
160 Degree Thermostat
GM Factory Performance Axle Back Exhaust
McLeod twin disk RXT Clutch
Elite Engineering Catch Can
Coil Relocation Kit with MSD Plug Wires
Oracle Marker Lights
ZL1 Replica Wheels
Inferno Orange Interior
Running on 93 Octane
Dyno tuned by ADM Performance (Andy Mages) in Lewisville, Texas

hammdo · 12-04-2017, 06:33 PM

BAP is not enough for E85.

DSX has an e85/aux pump kit and he’ll reprogram your FPCM for free. That is what I’m running..

Injectors will be needed as you noted, I have the ID1050x... making 747 RWHP, 794 RWTQ...

-Don

PerryIomSS · 12-04-2017, 07:27 PM

Hammdo with the DSX kit did you have to run a bigger fuel line. Also you a running a ZL1 pump correct. I am getting everything to put a procharger on my 1le and have read a lot of your stuff.

hammdo · 12-04-2017, 07:35 PM

It comes with everything. I did have to tap into the fuel tank and I do have a zl1 fuel pump.

This may give you some help:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...385577&page=92

-Don

fif_gen_powa · 12-04-2017, 08:07 PM

Sell all the ZL1 stuff and just do a real twin pump setup with flex fuel, AGP has the best priced setup, squash and fore have complete kits as well

gsxrturbo · 12-04-2017, 08:12 PM

I AGREE,get yourself a twin pump and be done.Its a lot of money but well worth it.

Unavowed · 12-04-2017, 08:57 PM

Not necessarily. I have a V pump, Vaporworx controller, JMS booster and ID850'S, plus meth and on E50 make enough power to trap 143-145.

joes2010SS · 12-04-2017, 10:17 PM

I really appreciate the input!

Slickcas · 12-05-2017, 02:08 AM

Been looking myself also. The DSX kit looks very nice and will get you to 1000+RWHP. It keeps the factory FPCM with ZL1 pump. So it will keep the PSI perfect with out running balls out all the time. So you have factory reliability and quiet with a booster pump kicks on at a preset psi like 8 or 10 of boost. If you like to drive a lot this kit seems the best.

They are right AGP has what seems the best twin/ triple pump setup for the price. The twin with E85 setup is $1800. It’s a really nice setup.

I am leaning towards the DSX kit. But never know with me lol.

BiggFoot · 12-05-2017, 09:13 AM

OP looks like you already received some good advice, more pump and injectors will be needed.

How do you like the McLeod RXT Twin? I am getting one installed next week.

Unavowed · 12-05-2017, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Slickcas

Been looking myself also. The DSX kit looks very nice and will get you to 1000+RWHP. It keeps the factory FPCM with ZL1 pump. So it will keep the PSI perfect with out running balls out all the time. So you have factory reliability and quiet with a booster pump kicks on at a preset psi like 8 or 10 of boost. If you like to drive a lot this kit seems the best.

They are right AGP has what seems the best twin/ triple pump setup for the price. The twin with E85 setup is $1800. It’s a really nice setup.

I am leaning towards the DSX kit. But never know with me lol.

I just can't get past drilling a hole in my gas tank and mounting an external pump. Seems like for not much more money you can get a viable in-tank solution. Either AGP or ACE performance. I'm contemplating this now too.
https://www.aceperformance.biz/produ...in-walbro-450/

scv_guy · 12-05-2017, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unavowed

I just can't get past drilling a hole in my gas tank and mounting an external pump. Seems like for not much more money you can get a viable in-tank solution. Either AGP or ACE performance. I'm contemplating this now too.
https://www.aceperformance.biz/produ...in-walbro-450/

I'm currently running that setup and it works great!
Made 750rwhp with tons of room to go...

Slickcas · 12-06-2017, 03:28 AM

Never seen that ACE set up. Like to see some more information on it. Like better pictures. Be good for the OP and every one else also.

mrimpala02 · 12-06-2017, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scv_guy

I'm currently running that setup and it works great!
Made 750rwhp with tons of room to go...

Does the ACE setup retain the bucket so you don't have to always worry about fuel at 1/4 of a tank?

12-04-2017, 04:28 PM	#1
joes2010SS Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: St. Louis Posts: 13	Thinking of going e85 and have fuel questions Hi All, I purchased a 2010 camaro ss. Reading around the forums and its been a great help but, I am thinking of switching to e85 or flex fuel. Currently has the 85# fast injectors and zl1 pump and ADM FPCM. I am under standing that I need to most likely upgrade my injectors. I was thinking FIC 1000's. Would the zl1 pump be good enough if I get a Boost a Pump. I'm looking to reach over 700RWHP/750RWHP. Anything else I should purchase? I have done some research but its pretty conflicting. I also don't have a local tuner to talk to yet. I do have somebody I'm going to be talking to in a month or two. Stock bottom end LS3 376ci w/Manual 6 speed Brian Tooley Racing PD Stage 3 Cam Brian Tooley Racing .660 Springs Brian Tooley Racing 7.400" 3/8" Pushrods LSA Supercharger 2.50" Upper Pulley (10.5lbs of boost) Straub Technologies Solid Trunion Kit Melling High Pressure Oil Pump 85lb Fast Fuel Injectors ZL1 Fuel Pump ADM Fuel Pressure Control Module ADM Cold Air Intake Lingenfelter Dual Fan Heat Exchanger with thermostat 1 7/8'' Long Tube Headers w/Offroad Cats 160 Degree Thermostat GM Factory Performance Axle Back Exhaust McLeod twin disk RXT Clutch Elite Engineering Catch Can Coil Relocation Kit with MSD Plug Wires Oracle Marker Lights ZL1 Replica Wheels Inferno Orange Interior Running on 93 Octane Dyno tuned by ADM Performance (Andy Mages) in Lewisville, Texas

12-04-2017, 06:33 PM	#2
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	BAP is not enough for E85. DSX has an e85/aux pump kit and he’ll reprogram your FPCM for free. That is what I’m running.. Injectors will be needed as you noted, I have the ID1050x... making 747 RWHP, 794 RWTQ... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

12-04-2017, 07:35 PM	#4
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	It comes with everything. I did have to tap into the fuel tank and I do have a zl1 fuel pump. This may give you some help: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...385577&page=92 -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

12-04-2017, 08:07 PM	#5
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	Sell all the ZL1 stuff and just do a real twin pump setup with flex fuel, AGP has the best priced setup, squash and fore have complete kits as well __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

12-04-2017, 08:57 PM	#7
Unavowed Drives: Twin turbo G8 GXP Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: MD Posts: 454	Not necessarily. I have a V pump, Vaporworx controller, JMS booster and ID850'S, plus meth and on E50 make enough power to trap 143-145. __________________ 9.88 @ 144 https://youtu.be/nN0rz1RAcJw

12-04-2017, 07:27 PM	#3
PerryIomSS Drives: 2013 Iom SS/1LE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Minot ND Posts: 43	Hammdo with the DSX kit did you have to run a bigger fuel line. Also you a running a ZL1 pump correct. I am getting everything to put a procharger on my 1le and have read a lot of your stuff.

12-04-2017, 08:12 PM	#6
gsxrturbo Drives: 2010 ss Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: windom mn Posts: 337	I AGREE,get yourself a twin pump and be done.Its a lot of money but well worth it.

12-04-2017, 10:17 PM	#8
joes2010SS Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: St. Louis Posts: 13	I really appreciate the input!

12-05-2017, 02:08 AM	#9
Slickcas Drives: 12' 2SS/RS LS3 IBM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Odin. ILL Posts: 487 View My Garage	Been looking myself also. The DSX kit looks very nice and will get you to 1000+RWHP. It keeps the factory FPCM with ZL1 pump. So it will keep the PSI perfect with out running balls out all the time. So you have factory reliability and quiet with a booster pump kicks on at a preset psi like 8 or 10 of boost. If you like to drive a lot this kit seems the best. They are right AGP has what seems the best twin/ triple pump setup for the price. The twin with E85 setup is $1800. It’s a really nice setup. I am leaning towards the DSX kit. But never know with me lol.

12-05-2017, 09:13 AM	#10
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	OP looks like you already received some good advice, more pump and injectors will be needed. How do you like the McLeod RXT Twin? I am getting one installed next week. __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

12-06-2017, 03:28 AM	#13
Slickcas Drives: 12' 2SS/RS LS3 IBM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Odin. ILL Posts: 487 View My Garage	Never seen that ACE set up. Like to see some more information on it. Like better pictures. Be good for the OP and every one else also.