Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-25-2013, 09:30 PM   #1989
racergirl


 
racergirl's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Red Hot 2SS/RS A6 Camaro
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Metairie, LA
Posts: 5,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
99% of Camaro owners in general have no idea what the rear gear ratio is on a 2LS what are you talking about? I'm sure it is a real drag strip and all but the fact is most stock auto V6s run mid to high 14s and most bolt on auto cars run low 14s. Combined with that you have a 2LS with the "fuel economy" gears and you have the heaviest stock rim they ever offered which are even HEAVIER than the RS/SS 20s wrapped with the least sticky drag tire you could possibly find. On top of that your time slip has errors. How are you going to try and call it legitimate when half of it is messed up? That is like failing a test with a 50% and trying to argue you deserve a 100% because you did half the test perfectly.
And I know the times very well. Those cars are on the FAST list first of all and most of them are full bolt on, full bolt on + drag radial cars. And look at what they trapped, an average of about 100.7. Look at what the stock cars trap, about 96 on average.
I spent 3 years in the V6 "game" and raced my car a ton of times along with a bunch of people on this forum and there is just no way an auto V6 is running 13s stock. I think you're the victim of a messed up track or like I said you have some kind of factory freak and need a dyno.
Dug this up just for you. Car #13 is the 5.0 and I'm #22. Raced against him two different times. Timeslip on the left is the non-faulty one, the right is the faulty one.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Current Camaro: 2014 2SS
Performance Mods: BBK Headers, Borla S type axle back, tune, TSP Stage 1 cam, Vararam Intake, DR's
11.77 @ 119.21

Former Camaro: 2013 2LS
BONE STOCK: 13.953@100.77 With Bolt-Ons: 13.646@101.60
With 75 shot and Bolt-Ons: 12.587@111.25
Performance Mods: CAI Intake, MRT V2, SLP Underdrive Pulley, DRs, Skinnies, Rear seat delete
racergirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2013, 09:36 PM   #1990
62nalide


 
62nalide's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 SS
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 4,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
Trust me when I say I really don't care. I just think its funny to call people out on BS and see them try to defend it.
From the looks of the post seems like you do care lol
What does your ss run again?
62nalide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2013, 09:43 PM   #1991
Merc
In The Circle
 
Merc's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Abbotsford BC Canada
Posts: 11,291


__________________
Merc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2013, 10:01 PM   #1992
racergirl


 
racergirl's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Red Hot 2SS/RS A6 Camaro
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Metairie, LA
Posts: 5,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
99% of Camaro owners in general have no idea what the rear gear ratio is on a 2LS what are you talking about? I'm sure it is a real drag strip and all but the fact is most stock auto V6s run mid to high 14s and most bolt on auto cars run low 14s. Combined with that you have a 2LS with the "fuel economy" gears and you have the heaviest stock rim they ever offered which are even HEAVIER than the RS/SS 20s wrapped with the least sticky drag tire you could possibly find. On top of that your time slip has errors. How are you going to try and call it legitimate when half of it is messed up? That is like failing a test with a 50% and trying to argue you deserve a 100% because you did half the test perfectly.
And I know the times very well. Those cars are on the FAST list first of all and most of them are full bolt on, full bolt on + drag radial cars. And look at what they trapped, an average of about 100.7. Look at what the stock cars trap, about 96 on average.
I spent 3 years in the V6 "game" and raced my car a ton of times along with a bunch of people on this forum and there is just no way an auto V6 is running 13s stock. I think you're the victim of a messed up track or like I said you have some kind of factory freak and need a dyno.
P.S. Two more things. One: according to Camaro5 wiki, the 18" steel wheels and BF Goodrich tires weigh 251.6 lbs, the 20" alloy wheels with the P Zero tires weigh 260.6 lbs. Two: you still didn't answer the question of how much your v6 weighed with you in it.
__________________
Current Camaro: 2014 2SS
Performance Mods: BBK Headers, Borla S type axle back, tune, TSP Stage 1 cam, Vararam Intake, DR's
11.77 @ 119.21

Former Camaro: 2013 2LS
BONE STOCK: 13.953@100.77 With Bolt-Ons: 13.646@101.60
With 75 shot and Bolt-Ons: 12.587@111.25
Performance Mods: CAI Intake, MRT V2, SLP Underdrive Pulley, DRs, Skinnies, Rear seat delete
racergirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2013, 10:29 PM   #1993
GretchenGotGrowl


 
GretchenGotGrowl's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 7,129
Lot's of people run at the same track and they get great times with negative DA. However, there doesn't seem to be anything that is super extraordinary. Look at the fast lists for the stock LS3 and L99. The fastest cars are well below (3-4 tenths) the magazine times for those cars. The magazine times for the LLT (less power) were around 14.3, so why is so surprising someone who knows how to drive and got good air ran 3 tenths faster? It isn't like she ran good times once. She's posted several very low 14s time slips. I see no reason to doubt her times just because she broke the record. Hope she or someone else does it again.
__________________
New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal
Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread
GretchenGotGrowl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2013, 10:57 PM   #1994
Camarojt

 
Camarojt's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011camaro SS
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Allen, Tx
Posts: 2,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnlighteningYou View Post
Not tryng to be rude, but what possible skills come into play when driving and AUTOMATIC trans car? lol. there is one pedal and hold on.
You sir are clueless! Let me guess, you drive a stick but are slow at that therefore taking credit from any automatic that goes faster than you dem fair?
If that's all there was to it then there would be such a small margin of difference between all auto cars with like mods.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
I'm sure it is a real drag strip and all but the fact is most stock auto V6s run mid to high 14s and most bolt on auto cars run low 14s.

I spent 3 years in the V6 "game" and raced my car a ton of times along with a bunch of people on this forum and there is just no way an auto V6 is running 13s stock.
She had extremely good DA, and sounds like she knows her way around the track. When you have raced for years or been around racing a long time, you know a lot of the little things that makes car run a touch better than your counterparts.
You say most stock Auto V6's run mid to high 14's, so it MUST be that her car is mistaken right?

Most bolt on only SS cars run mid 12's but I run mid 11's so at some point, it all comes into factor. Strong car, good DA, experienced driver! Nuff said.

Maybe in your 3 years in the V6 game you didn't run that fast, that doesn't mean she can't?

Not to mention, she threw out a challenge of $500 to prove her wrong. Either put up, or shut up!

Congrats on the times and I hope you go faster just to shut the doubters up!
Camarojt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 09:06 AM   #1995
DarkneSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Westchester, New York
Posts: 3,715
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62nalide View Post
From the looks of the post seems like you do care lol
What does your ss run again?
It pulls mid to high 12s cars with an intake and cut outs but at the track the way it is probably low 13s with a 12.8 12.9 possible with a perfect launch. My rim/tire set up is heavier than stock by a decent margin.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl View Post
Lot's of people run at the same track and they get great times with negative DA. However, there doesn't seem to be anything that is super extraordinary. Look at the fast lists for the stock LS3 and L99. The fastest cars are well below (3-4 tenths) the magazine times for those cars. The magazine times for the LLT (less power) were around 14.3, so why is so surprising someone who knows how to drive and got good air ran 3 tenths faster? It isn't like she ran good times once. She's posted several very low 14s time slips. I see no reason to doubt her times just because she broke the record. Hope she or someone else does it again.
Those mag times were with the manual tranny, the autos ran 14.5ish. The manuals put down 15whpish more so viola to no surprise they run a couple tenths quicker and trap a couple MPH higher. All I'm saying is the 100 MPH trap is suspect. Had it have been a 13.9-14.0 run with a 1.875(probably not possible) or 1.9 60' foot you wouldn't have heard shit from me. Trap requires power. Which is why in my first post I said DYNO this shit! Because its probably a factory freak if its truly bone stock which is awesome. Its gotta be making around 265-270 wheel and those cars typically dyno 245-250 if memory serves me.
Race girl since its a 2013 did you buy this car new or used?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Camarojt View Post
She had extremely good DA, and sounds like she knows her way around the track. When you have raced for years or been around racing a long time, you know a lot of the little things that makes car run a touch better than your counterparts.
You say most stock Auto V6's run mid to high 14's, so it MUST be that her car is mistaken right?

Most bolt on only SS cars run mid 12's but I run mid 11's so at some point, it all comes into factor. Strong car, good DA, experienced driver! Nuff said.

Maybe in your 3 years in the V6 game you didn't run that fast, that doesn't mean she can't?

Not to mention, she threw out a challenge of $500 to prove her wrong. Either put up, or shut up!

Congrats on the times and I hope you go faster just to shut the doubters up!
If she was closer I'd go rent a V6 and we'd hit the track but alas I'm too far. If someone in the area is willing I might be willing to pay for the rental at least just because I did come on here and run my keyboard. I aint doing no $500 though.
DarkneSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 09:11 AM   #1996
racergirl


 
racergirl's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Red Hot 2SS/RS A6 Camaro
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Metairie, LA
Posts: 5,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
It pulls mid to high 12s cars with an intake and cut outs but at the track the way it is probably low 13s with a 12.8 12.9 possible with a perfect launch. My rim/tire set up is heavier than stock by a decent margin.


Those mag times were with the manual tranny, the autos ran 14.5ish. The manuals put down 15whpish more so viola to no surprise they run a couple tenths quicker and trap a couple MPH higher. All I'm saying is the 100 MPH trap is suspect. Had it have been a 13.9-14.0 run with a 1.875(probably not possible) or 1.9 60' foot you wouldn't have heard shit from me. Trap requires power. Which is why in my first post I said DYNO this shit! Because its probably a factory freak if its truly bone stock which is awesome. Its gotta be making around 265-270 wheel and those cars typically dyno 245-250 if memory serves me.
Race girl since its a 2013 did you buy this car new or used?


If she was closer I'd go rent a V6 and we'd hit the track but alas I'm too far. If someone in the area is willing I might be willing to pay for the rental at least just because I did come on here and run my keyboard. I aint doing no $500 though.
Car was bought brand new. And I went 99.97 trap speed at +700 DA, so it was a given that I'd have a higher trap speed in negative DA. Again, still haven't answered my question of how much your v6 weighed with driver?
__________________
Current Camaro: 2014 2SS
Performance Mods: BBK Headers, Borla S type axle back, tune, TSP Stage 1 cam, Vararam Intake, DR's
11.77 @ 119.21

Former Camaro: 2013 2LS
BONE STOCK: 13.953@100.77 With Bolt-Ons: 13.646@101.60
With 75 shot and Bolt-Ons: 12.587@111.25
Performance Mods: CAI Intake, MRT V2, SLP Underdrive Pulley, DRs, Skinnies, Rear seat delete

Last edited by racergirl; 12-26-2013 at 09:24 AM.
racergirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 09:19 AM   #1997
GretchenGotGrowl


 
GretchenGotGrowl's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 7,129
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
Those mag times were with the manual tranny, the autos ran 14.5ish. The manuals put down 15whpish more so viola to no surprise they run a couple tenths quicker and trap a couple MPH higher. All I'm saying is the 100 MPH trap is suspect. Had it have been a 13.9-14.0 run with a 1.875(probably not possible) or 1.9 60' foot you wouldn't have heard shit from me. Trap requires power. Which is why in my first post I said DYNO this shit! Because its probably a factory freak if its truly bone stock which is awesome. Its gotta be making around 265-270 wheel and those cars typically dyno 245-250 if memory serves me.
Race girl since its a 2013 did you buy this car new or used?
Actually, one magazine tested an automatic 2010 Synergy Green and ran 14.2 if I remember right. Everyone thought it was a fluke or that they Synergy Greens made more power than the others.
__________________
New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal
Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread
GretchenGotGrowl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 09:59 AM   #1998
62nalide


 
62nalide's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 SS
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 4,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
It pulls mid to high 12s cars with an intake and cut outs but at the track the way it is probably low 13s with a 12.8 12.9 possible with a perfect launch. My rim/tire set up is heavier than stock by a decent margin.
h.
Ok, so if you add headers and a pulley whats your guess on what it'll run?
62nalide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 10:03 AM   #1999
GretchenGotGrowl


 
GretchenGotGrowl's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 7,129
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62nalide View Post
Ok, so if you add headers and a pulley whats your guess on what it'll run?
11.520 of course.
__________________
New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal
Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread
GretchenGotGrowl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #2000
62nalide


 
62nalide's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 SS
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 4,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl View Post
11.520 of course.
I see you catch what I was trying to do lol
62nalide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 01:40 PM   #2001
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkneSS View Post
It pulls mid to high 12s cars with an intake and cut outs but at the track the way it is probably low 13s with a 12.8 12.9 possible with a perfect launch. My rim/tire set up is heavier than stock by a decent margin.


Those mag times were with the manual tranny, the autos ran 14.5ish. The manuals put down 15whpish more so viola to no surprise they run a couple tenths quicker and trap a couple MPH higher. All I'm saying is the 100 MPH trap is suspect. Had it have been a 13.9-14.0 run with a 1.875(probably not possible) or 1.9 60' foot you wouldn't have heard shit from me. Trap requires power. Which is why in my first post I said DYNO this shit! Because its probably a factory freak if its truly bone stock which is awesome. Its gotta be making around 265-270 wheel and those cars typically dyno 245-250 if memory serves me.
Race girl since its a 2013 did you buy this car new or used?


If she was closer I'd go rent a V6 and we'd hit the track but alas I'm too far. If someone in the area is willing I might be willing to pay for the rental at least just because I did come on here and run my keyboard. I aint doing no $500 though.


Got any slips to show those high 12 runs? I remember a time when you had your V6 and you thought with your ability, perfect shifts, etc etc you would be setting some very hot times. But it never panned out as you found it was tougher than you thought.

As for her HP, remember she is running with a LFX, which is 323 HP. Ricer math on an auto would put her around 258 HP at the wheels. The numbers you listed might be from the stock LLT's?

Instead of offering to race her with a rental, send her the money to go get a dyno.........

Oh the bench racing...................got to love it............
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2013, 02:16 PM   #2002
PoorMansCamaro



 
PoorMansCamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: Really Slow
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 56,957
that would definitely be a factory freak. i was pulling off a 104 trap speed with nitrous, in a manual tranny.
__________________
PoorMansCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Unofficial 1/4 Mile (V8) 2010+ Camaro Fast List Merc Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion 250 04-01-2014 10:40 AM
Does the v6 have enough power? cstproductions Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 305 08-29-2012 09:27 PM
Modern Camaro Performance - Lowest Prices Anywhere! PartsTaxi.com Sponsor Announcements / Giveaways / Contests 0 11-03-2010 10:50 AM
Modern Camaro Performance Parts - www.PartsTaxi.com PartsTaxi.com Sponsor Announcements / Giveaways / Contests 0 10-06-2010 04:26 PM
Official 1/4 Mile 2010 Camaro Stock Pirelli's Fast List GQ4Life Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion 17 07-07-2010 12:31 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.