12-30-2017, 03:11 PM | #1107 | |
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12-30-2017, 03:14 PM | #1108 |
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12-30-2017, 03:19 PM | #1109 | |
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Do the math...
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12-30-2017, 03:28 PM | #1110 |
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Right from article.
The Mustang laid down the faster lap solely by virtue of its 82-horsepower, 75-lb-ft advantage in a drag race up the front straight to the finish line. The result: Shelby, 1:38.69; ZL1, 1:39.18. But wait, there’s a catch. You see, Randy had another observation about the Shelby. “The brakes just don’t generate confidence. They’re not enough to stop this car on a racetrack. On the street, they’re probably fine. But the Camaro brakes do stop the car.” While the Mustang was a half-second faster around the track than the ZL1 on its best lap, it couldn’t repeat the performance. By the end of the first lap, the brakes had already begun to heat up so badly, we could smell them from the pits as the car passed by on the front straight. By the end of the second lap, the Shelby had lost more than half of its advantage over the ZL1, turning a 1:39.03. By the third lap, the Mustang was behind the Camaro, turning a 1:39.30. The ZL1, meanwhile, never deviated by more than two-tenths of a second. The problem, we suspect, is cooling. The Mustang is 234 pounds lighter than the Camaro and has larger front brakes, and while it has more power and more speed to deal with, it should stop better. In a single attempt, it does, stopping from 60 mph 7 feet shorter than the Camaro. At the track, though, Randy complained of serious fade. “Brakes lack bite, worse each lap,” he noted. “Feels like it doesn’t want to stop. Disconcerting.” We took a look under the cars, and where the Camaro had obvious ductwork to provide cool air to the front brakes, the Mustang had none. So, yes, the Mustang turned a faster lap, but if it’s not repeatable, is it really a win? Find a 2.23-mile autocross and you might have something, but in any road race, the Mustang is going to quickly fall behind. |
12-30-2017, 03:32 PM | #1111 | |
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Go ahead and assume that the ZL1 did it's best lap of 1.39.18 every time...which it didn't. PS. Don't forget to carry the 1.
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12-30-2017, 03:54 PM | #1112 |
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12-30-2017, 04:04 PM | #1113 | |
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Maybe there will be a 500 and 500R. Whatever they throw in the ring has to be a top performer. Can't afford not to have coolers this time. |
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12-30-2017, 05:00 PM | #1115 | |
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However, it was far more than that.... And again, as Blaq has repeatedly said, this is all being done in the winter, when every car will be great on a well prepped track. Do this in the dead heat of drag racing season and you will NOT replicate those numbers.... not even close.. As for the MT article, my whole point was that after 1 lap, the car was pretty much hosed....
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12-30-2017, 05:12 PM | #1116 | |
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The GT500 clearly was faster. It took 2 out of 3 laps which is impressive. But, it is a GT500. It is always going to either put up a good fight or win against the Camaros. This time around Ford has had a good amount of time to bring something out to beat the ZL1. So I suspect it will and I won't be surprised if it does. I will be very disappointed if it doesn't. So basically all eyes are on Ford right now. They really have to deliver and deliver good. The only thing I could see raining on the parade is if GM pulls a sneak move and ups the ZL1 for 2019. I don't think they will tho. We will have a fight on our hands. |
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12-30-2017, 05:21 PM | #1117 | |
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yes, in a 3 lap race the gt500 would win, 4 laps it would lose. |
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12-30-2017, 05:27 PM | #1118 | |
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Additionally, this is a pro driver putting up top notch times. The cars were still close enough where one mistake, one slightly bad brake, and boom... the ZL1 was ahead...
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12-30-2017, 06:19 PM | #1119 |
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I wonder if these cars had stock brake fluid in them. If so I don't think either of them would have lasted many more laps.
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