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kpwalls06 · 11-09-2012, 09:05 AM

Unreal is correct, if you size the turbo and the A/R correctly, the lag will be negligible. Especially when considering single turbo setups are mounted in the engine bay, negating any delay involved with long sections of exhaust/intake piping.

grocerygetter · 11-09-2012, 09:07 AM

the oiling problem for the twin kits on a turbo cars bothers me. A single that will oil normally with out some BS elec. pump is the ticket if you want turbo. If you are daily driving it, I would totally go SC. Turbo cars will find exhaust leaks. So maintenance issues will arrise.

Unreal · 11-09-2012, 09:19 AM

I disagree. A properly designed manifold/etc won't leak.

The only down side I see valid so far is the electric pumps for the oil. Then again the new ones are really reliable and people are not havng issues with them. I'm not sure how that is a problem. Yes it is an added part, but if it is reliable and works why is it a problem?

uniqueskillz · 11-09-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I disagree. A properly designed manifold/etc won't leak.

The only down side I see valid so far is the electric pumps for the oil. Then again the new ones are really reliable and people are not havng issues with them. I'm not sure how that is a problem. Yes it is an added part, but if it is reliable and works why is it a problem?

Birm · 11-09-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I disagree. A properly designed manifold/etc won't leak.

The only down side I see valid so far is the electric pumps for the oil. Then again the new ones are really reliable and people are not havng issues with them. I'm not sure how that is a problem. Yes it is an added part, but if it is reliable and works why is it a problem?

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Originally Posted by uniqueskillz

So with a turbo I would need a new electric pump for the oil? I did not see that in the kit...

kpwalls06 · 11-09-2012, 10:26 AM

It depends on the kit you're looking at Birm. Many come with an oil pump and drain setup already designed in the kit. If you have a question on that, it's best to call the manufacturer and ask.

Unreal · 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM

Depends if the turbo is mounted high end to gravity drain. The high mount singles up front won't need a pump. The twin kits that mount down low (best IMO) use a scavenge pump to return oil to the pan.

RBD · 11-09-2012, 11:34 AM

Vortech V-3 Jannetty cam and tune 11psi 715rwhp 23mpgs highway ID-850 injectors
nuff said

kpwalls06 · 11-09-2012, 02:37 PM

A single turbo at equal boost with a blower cam would make even more power.

ZachSGMSS · 11-09-2012, 07:42 PM

Birm if you're able to come out to the track when my cars out there you're more than welcome to take it down the track if you'd like

Birm · 11-10-2012, 09:03 AM

Zach, I will be there Monday to test out a few products with Tracy (Ported Manifold and Vararam Power Wedge). When you are ready to head out to the track though let me know, I'd be glad to go and right seat ride..Not crazy about driving others cars on the track though lol, God Forbid something to happen when im in the seat.. Thanks though!

ZachSGMSS · 11-10-2012, 05:23 PM

I completely understand. I'll definitely let you know when we're goin out there though.

11-10-2012, 05:50 PM

Either decision is a great one to go with. Obviously I'm partial to the RXP Single Turbo Kit, but I run the ECS Paxton SC kit on my personal ride. The Vortech SC kit, I Just tuned a 2012 in Panama City is awesome. Such good choices its personal preference.

You'll be at the shop Monday, my car is still on the wastegate so you can feel what a SC car feels like, without a stupid amount of boost in it (Running 13psi on the gate). However, my big stroke & converter car will feel different than the stock bottom end.

11-10-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Birm

So with a turbo I would need a new electric pump for the oil? I did not see that in the kit...

Not for our kit. Oil fed is from the machined adapter we use above the oil filter, drain is gravity fed. With twins you usually have to use the electric pump for scavenge side to return the oil to the pan, the twins are usually next to the pan so gravity cannot return the oil. Thus the ease of the single kit over the twins, HOWEVER, a twin kit would be some NASTY torque

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Originally Posted by kpwalls06

Unreal is correct, if you size the turbo and the A/R correctly, the lag will be negligible. Especially when considering single turbo setups are mounted in the engine bay, negating any delay involved with long sections of exhaust/intake piping.

Keeping stock exhaust manifolds, 2.5" on the crossover, 3" on the concentric flange feed with a smaller exhaust housing will eliminate most of the lag. I should see boost pretty early in the RXP Single Turbo Kit.

11-09-2012, 09:07 AM	#30
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	the oiling problem for the twin kits on a turbo cars bothers me. A single that will oil normally with out some BS elec. pump is the ticket if you want turbo. If you are daily driving it, I would totally go SC. Turbo cars will find exhaust leaks. So maintenance issues will arrise. __________________ -John S.

11-09-2012, 09:19 AM	#31
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	I disagree. A properly designed manifold/etc won't leak. The only down side I see valid so far is the electric pumps for the oil. Then again the new ones are really reliable and people are not havng issues with them. I'm not sure how that is a problem. Yes it is an added part, but if it is reliable and works why is it a problem? __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-09-2012, 11:17 AM	#35
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Depends if the turbo is mounted high end to gravity drain. The high mount singles up front won't need a pump. The twin kits that mount down low (best IMO) use a scavenge pump to return oil to the pan. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-09-2012, 02:37 PM	#37
kpwalls06 Cory Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6; Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Carrollton, Tx Posts: 299 View My Garage	A single turbo at equal boost with a blower cam would make even more power. Last edited by kpwalls06; 11-10-2012 at 05:25 PM.

11-09-2012, 09:05 AM	#29
kpwalls06 Cory Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6; Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Carrollton, Tx Posts: 299 View My Garage	Unreal is correct, if you size the turbo and the A/R correctly, the lag will be negligible. Especially when considering single turbo setups are mounted in the engine bay, negating any delay involved with long sections of exhaust/intake piping.

11-09-2012, 10:26 AM	#34
kpwalls06 Cory Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6; Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Carrollton, Tx Posts: 299 View My Garage	It depends on the kit you're looking at Birm. Many come with an oil pump and drain setup already designed in the kit. If you have a question on that, it's best to call the manufacturer and ask.

11-09-2012, 11:34 AM	#36
RBD Drives: 2013 SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mendota, IL Posts: 715 View My Garage	Vortech V-3 Jannetty cam and tune 11psi 715rwhp 23mpgs highway ID-850 injectors nuff said

11-09-2012, 07:42 PM	#38
ZachSGMSS Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 511	Birm if you're able to come out to the track when my cars out there you're more than welcome to take it down the track if you'd like

11-10-2012, 09:03 AM	#39
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	Zach, I will be there Monday to test out a few products with Tracy (Ported Manifold and Vararam Power Wedge). When you are ready to head out to the track though let me know, I'd be glad to go and right seat ride..Not crazy about driving others cars on the track though lol, God Forbid something to happen when im in the seat.. Thanks though!

11-10-2012, 05:23 PM	#40
ZachSGMSS Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 511	I completely understand. I'll definitely let you know when we're goin out there though.

11-10-2012, 05:50 PM	#41
Matt @ RX Guest Posts: n/a View My Garage	Either decision is a great one to go with. Obviously I'm partial to the RXP Single Turbo Kit, but I run the ECS Paxton SC kit on my personal ride. The Vortech SC kit, I Just tuned a 2012 in Panama City is awesome. Such good choices its personal preference. You'll be at the shop Monday, my car is still on the wastegate so you can feel what a SC car feels like, without a stupid amount of boost in it (Running 13psi on the gate). However, my big stroke & converter car will feel different than the stock bottom end.