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SSeniorMoment · 05-15-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

We've got pretty good Kool-Aid over here.

OP-We've always got used supercharger kits laying around for a good deal.

Now that's tempting.

avido · 05-15-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MSull16

Yeah where are the SLP people at? I ask because that seems to be one of the lower priced ones I can find. 8k probably my max. Ideally 7k.

i got a similar price for a whipple tuner kit,id 850 , cai kit for whipple and 3,750 pulley with belt so not really different from the slp. i'ma put it on the car since I'm a mechanic
i got zl1 fuel pump and module from a friend who crashed his car

Bodywerks · 05-25-2016, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I wish I got paid by them. I'm just an unemployeed bum right now and could use the work.

Not everyone wants the best performing, best value setup. Same reason there are Mustangs/Camaros/Challengers. Some people value different things.

I seriously considered going twin turbo, but after cam n heads and the exhaust note that goes with it, I'm worried about sacrificing that sound with turbos.
Loving my setup currently, but already want more. Looking to break the 700rwhp line. Thought about an e85 erl 454 n/a, but I'd do a complete build and keep this ls3i have for a Sandrail. I don't have the $20-25k it would take to do it right so now I'm looking at boost options...

Unreal · 05-25-2016, 05:06 PM

Thing about FI over a big NA build is driveability and gas mileage. My 1200rwhp vette drives almost like stock. A 550rwhp cammed one drives like crap compared to my car. Plus 700rwhp on even a crazy 454 is a very hard thing to do. Low 600s, sure, but 700 becomes tough.

Anyone can bolt on a set of twins, and make 700rwhp with ease.

Come up here and drive one, or I know there are 2-3 in Tucson.

AGP Turbo · 05-25-2016, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodywerks

I seriously considered going twin turbo, but after cam n heads and the exhaust note that goes with it, I'm worried about sacrificing that sound with turbos.
Loving my setup currently, but already want more. Looking to break the 700rwhp line. Thought about an e85 erl 454 n/a, but I'd do a complete build and keep this ls3i have for a Sandrail. I don't have the $20-25k it would take to do it right so now I'm looking at boat options...

We've got a used centri with your name on it

Bodywerks · 05-25-2016, 06:44 PM

Nah, gonna keep my options open. Might take Nick up on a ride in a tt car when I'm ready to pull the trigger, which will be next winter at the earliest.
Isn't it the general rule that 700rwhp is the max you want to put against a stock bottom end?

Unreal · 05-25-2016, 06:57 PM

On good fuel and a turbo setup, 750-800rwhp has been done for a long long time reliably.

Remember turbos dont' take 50-70rwhp to spin so cylinder pressure/motor stress on a 750rwhp turbo setup would be similar to a 700rwhp blower setup.

Bodywerks · 05-25-2016, 09:54 PM

Very true, and the 'free horsepower' idea behind turbo is what has always swayed me in their favor. Might quite possibly not make it even a year on this heads/cam package if I keep thinking like I have been thinking. Might have Pat g spec me another cam to get it started...

SS PANTHER · 05-26-2016, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Thing about FI over a big NA build is driveability and gas mileage. My 1200rwhp vette drives almost like stock. A 550rwhp cammed one drives like crap compared to my car.

I'm at about the 550rwhp level with my SLP TVS2300 and even with 3.70's in my A6 I can pull down 21-22mpg highway. My convertible weighs 4500 with me in it and it drives so smooth. I set my car up as a GT car with full suspension and MPSS's and the addition of the SC made all the difference over a bolt on car. Drivability and multidimensional use with fair gas mileage makes the car enjoyable to drive.

SoChrisB · 05-26-2016, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SS PANTHER

I'm at about the 550rwhp level with my SLP TVS2300 and even with 3.70's in my A6 I can pull down 21-22mpg highway. My convertible weighs 4500 with me in it and it drives so smooth. I set my car up as a GT car with full suspension and MPSS's and the addition of the SC made all the difference over a bolt on car. Drivability and multidimensional use with fair gas mileage makes the car enjoyable to drive.

Not to deviate, but how do you like the 3.70 gears with the supercharger? I've been thinking about it lately, but have heard mixed reviews of gears with a supercharger.

SS PANTHER · 05-26-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SoChrisB

Not to deviate, but how do you like the 3.70 gears with the supercharger? I've been thinking about it lately, but have heard mixed reviews of gears with a supercharger.

I felt 3:45's wasn't much of an increase over the 3.27's and when I was just a bolt on car I always contemplated adding F.i. in the future and felt 3.70's would be the max. I really liked them, but, now with F.I. I love them. 2150 at 70mph and a real kick from rolls.

Nitroman28 · 05-26-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SoChrisB

Not to deviate, but how do you like the 3.70 gears with the supercharger? I've been thinking about it lately, but have heard mixed reviews of gears with a supercharger.

I would keep the gears you have. I switched to 3.45's when i had my maggie. 60ft and et stayed the same. Only difference was traction became more of a problem. You're not going to get traction with it now. More gear will just make it worst.

malscott · 05-28-2016, 04:06 PM

i debated between the ecs/adm kits for months before i finally decided on going with the ecs kit. My horsepower goal was 600+ and i felt that would be a gamble with a stage one base adm kit. Im at 680/602 and the car drives pretty much stock out of boost, i say pretty much because i have a btr stage 4 cam, but thats another story. Although the car is not my daily, it could be, and im very pleased with the outcome and my decision. TT's really were never an option for me just out of personal preference.....oil lines/return lines, scavenging pumps, etc....But they do make it easier if you want to make more power. You just need to figure out what are your horsepower goals and how you want it delivered

05-25-2016, 05:06 PM	#144
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Thing about FI over a big NA build is driveability and gas mileage. My 1200rwhp vette drives almost like stock. A 550rwhp cammed one drives like crap compared to my car. Plus 700rwhp on even a crazy 454 is a very hard thing to do. Low 600s, sure, but 700 becomes tough. Anyone can bolt on a set of twins, and make 700rwhp with ease. Come up here and drive one, or I know there are 2-3 in Tucson. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-25-2016, 06:44 PM	#146
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Nah, gonna keep my options open. Might take Nick up on a ride in a tt car when I'm ready to pull the trigger, which will be next winter at the earliest. Isn't it the general rule that 700rwhp is the max you want to put against a stock bottom end? __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

05-25-2016, 06:57 PM	#147
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	On good fuel and a turbo setup, 750-800rwhp has been done for a long long time reliably. Remember turbos dont' take 50-70rwhp to spin so cylinder pressure/motor stress on a 750rwhp turbo setup would be similar to a 700rwhp blower setup. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-25-2016, 09:54 PM	#148
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Very true, and the 'free horsepower' idea behind turbo is what has always swayed me in their favor. Might quite possibly not make it even a year on this heads/cam package if I keep thinking like I have been thinking. Might have Pat g spec me another cam to get it started... __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

05-28-2016, 04:06 PM	#153
malscott Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: south ga Posts: 140	i debated between the ecs/adm kits for months before i finally decided on going with the ecs kit. My horsepower goal was 600+ and i felt that would be a gamble with a stage one base adm kit. Im at 680/602 and the car drives pretty much stock out of boost, i say pretty much because i have a btr stage 4 cam, but thats another story. Although the car is not my daily, it could be, and im very pleased with the outcome and my decision. TT's really were never an option for me just out of personal preference.....oil lines/return lines, scavenging pumps, etc....But they do make it easier if you want to make more power. You just need to figure out what are your horsepower goals and how you want it delivered