Will there be a new 6th gen Z28?

[Schlok]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

How about a 4.3 liter twin turbo v6 ?

I'm thinking DOHC. Maybe the mysterious LT5.

[z28monster]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Unfortunately its a 75k car with a used car value 45k or less and without a radio,A/C and the DSSV does nothing for its daily driving routine, for most people anyway. It is a great track car for sure but its performance is close to a 2018 SS 1le which you can buy for under 45K . The Z28 is no way the best all around 45k camaro right now .

OK, so for another 500 bucks, I'll take the looks of the Z28.

[JUSTIFIED]

Originally Posted by z28monster

OK, so for another 500 bucks, I'll take the looks of the Z28.

Amen, Z28Monster. I paid a lot more than $500 more for my Z and have zero regrets.

Also, to Gen6 1LE... we're talking about a car that is 2 model years in arrears. Also, Gen6 styling just doesn't cut it. I've seen the ZL1 & the ZL1 1LE in person. Neither did all that much for me. Plus, the M6 can't launch w/out bogging. The 1LE is much further down the food chain from there so am pretty confident that it wouldn't do zip for me.

EDIT: One other note, let's compare values in 5-10 years. Remember the Superbird? Officially they built 1920 of them (many believe they built more...) and couldn't give them away. They now sell $183k (per Hagerty's site) and up. I may sound defensive... maybe I am. Just tired of the "it's a $75k car selling for X". It's got an LS7. 2nd Camaro ever w/427. carbon ceramic brakes. Suspension that paved way for ZL1 1LE. It sat on lots forever. It will be legendary in 20 years. End of story.

[Racer56]

Originally Posted by lbls1

The best z28, meaning the original '67-'69 models, were more user friendly than the '14 and '15, and they were, at that period, a sensation. Like I said, Chevy has to think the formula through carefully.

I owned a '69 Z-28 that I bought new. Sure, it was a great car in its era, but had significant flaws. It was a very flexible chassis, having a front sub-structure that was bolted to a weak unibody-type chassis. There were two rubber-bushed bolts holding the front end on the car and it exhibited a lot of flex in hard cornering. I actually called Penske Racing and they told me all the extensive mods they did on their Trans-Am Z-28 to eliminate the flexing. The seats were terrible and lacked adjustment, the brakes were weak, but the engine was sublime, reaching 7200 RPM is every gear (142 MPH in 4th).

I currently track a slightly modified 2015 Z-28 and it is an amazing car. Very hard to make any comparison, except for the raw presence and power of an American V-8 pony car.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by JUSTIFIED

Amen, Z28Monster. I paid a lot more than $500 more for my Z and have zero regrets.

Also, to Gen6 1LE... we're talking about a car that is 2 model years in arrears. Also, Gen6 styling just doesn't cut it. I've seen the ZL1 & the ZL1 1LE in person. Neither did all that much for me. Plus, the M6 can't launch w/out bogging. The 1LE is much further down the food chain from there so am pretty confident that it wouldn't do zip for me.

EDIT: One other note, let's compare values in 5-10 years. Remember the Superbird? Officially they built 1920 of them (many believe they built more...) and couldn't give them away. They now sell $183k (per Hagerty's site) and up. I may sound defensive... maybe I am. Just tired of the "it's a $75k car selling for X". It's got an LS7. 2nd Camaro ever w/427. carbon ceramic brakes. Suspension that paved way for ZL1 1LE. It sat on lots forever. It will be legendary in 20 years. End of story.

You bring up a point about the 1Le being much further down the food chain but yet its performance is close to the Z28 and the 6gen 1le was faster around laguna seca then the Z28, so you either have a 75k with the performance of a 45k car or the other way around . I am not knocking the z28 but am also not going to take it for anything other then what it is, and its no superbird.

[JUSTIFIED]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

You bring up a point about the 1Le being much further down the food chain but yet its performance is close to the Z28 and the 6gen 1le was faster around laguna seca then the Z28, so you either have a 75k with the performance of a 45k car or the other way around . I am not knocking the z28 but am also not going to take it for anything other then what it is, and its no superbird.

Anything can happen in one lap on different days. Get equal drivers and run them all out for 30-45 mins. I'll put my money on the $75k Z/28 all day long. The Stevenson Z28.R won the Continental Tire championship and it was essentially the street version w/ metal suspension bushings, a de-tuned engine and sans CCBs.

Enjoy your 1LE. It'll be a very small footnote in the Camaro legacy. Not knocking it, just calling it the way I see it.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

How about a 4.3 liter twin turbo v6 ?

No, I've already Posted earlier the Engines that are going to be in the Mid Engine Corvette

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by JUSTIFIED

Anything can happen in one lap on different days. Get equal drivers and run them all out for 30-45 mins. I'll put my money on the $75k Z/28 all day long. The Stevenson Z28.R won the Continental Tire championship and it was essentially the street version w/ metal suspension bushings, a de-tuned engine and sans CCBs.

Enjoy your 1LE. It'll be a very small footnote in the Camaro legacy. Not knocking it, just calling it the way I see it.

The 1le option is almost 30 years into the Camaro legacy and already is much more then just a footnote in its history so i am not sure what you are talking about .

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

No, I've already Posted earlier the Engines that are going to be in the Mid Engine Corvette

850 hp mid engine corvette sounds like fantasy but i hope they build it .

[aris]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

The 1le option is almost 30 years into the Camaro legacy and already is much more then just a footnote in its history so i am not sure what you are talking about .

I think what he's saying is that the 5th gen Z/28 is essentially the first car in the model's history to be truly regarded as a world class performance car that can hold its own against super-cars. It sort of paved the way for cars like the current ZL1/1LE, and demonstrated that this level of performance was possible in it's class/price point.

[69L48Z27]

Remeber the 3rd gen? You could get your 1LE and Z28 on the same car.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by aris

I think what he's saying is that the 5th gen Z/28 is essentially the first car in the model's history to be truly regarded as a world class performance car that can hold its own against super-cars. It sort of paved the way for cars like the current ZL1/1LE, and demonstrated that this level of performance was possible in it's class/price point.

The current Zl1/1Le paved its own way from two very successful programs. It just made sense to bring the two together, especially with no Gen 6 Z28 in the mix. I am not trying to take anything away from the Z28 but its success was short lived.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by 69L48Z27

Remeber the 3rd gen? You could get your 1LE and Z28 on the same car.

Yes and they could do the same now if they had a Z28 , Z28 with the A10 and the Z28/1Le Manual only.

[JUSTIFIED]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

The 1le option is almost 30 years into the Camaro legacy and already is much more then just a footnote in its history so i am not sure what you are talking about .

Oops.... I didn't know that it had been around for 30 years. Sort of proves my point. Only car aficionados (and current day 1LE owners) probably know that. Your average Joe knows about the Z/28, however.

Also, the Gen 5 Z/28 was a total game changer. You trying to put the 1LE on par with it (at $45K or $75K) is a joke. I love the 1LE (don't care much for Gen 6 looks, however), but I don't see it traversing the ring in 7:25 (as Al O. has stated the Z did). You did mention that it beat the Z at Laguna, but conveniently failed to mention that it lost to the Z by 4 seconds at VIR. Again, 1 lap, different days (same driver, however). Set em up and run em all out lap after lap, after lap, after lap and let's see what happens.

Lastly, I'd never go to another forum and utter a single negative word about their car. This is a good, respectful group of owners. I'd suggest talking about the merits of a future Z/28 w/out telling us how a $45K 1LE is better than a $45K Z/28 (after reminding us how it was a $75k car....) because it has creature comforts and has a cushier ride. You like a soft cushy ride. Great. We don't. Oh and the LT4 vs. LS7. Not even close.