GM Q3 2020 Sales Down 9.9%; 665,192 Units Sold

[2013ZL1FUN]

Yeah, I had a 69 Camaro that I drove 248K, but that was then (from 1976 to 1987), this is now. Maybe the 5th Gen Camaros are the only good cars in GMs stable. But the 95 Cavalier that I unfortunately bought didn't last 6 years till Trans went out, rendering it too costly to repair relative to its worth.

[FenwickHockey65]

...You're comparing a 1995 Cavalier to GM products 25 years later?

[2013ZL1FUN]

I sure am.

[95 imp]

Ya- I have 250K on my 2005 3500 Silverado and have only really changed tires and batteries.

The original cluster was warrantied out, the blower motor connector, and I've had problems with 2 injector connectors are the only "repairs" I have had in the last 15+ years.

It still has the original brake pads....

[camguynj]

Originally Posted by ABM2SS

Really? 237,000 miles and counting with very few mechanical issues. The only bad design issue I had to deal with was the damn plastic bushing in the clutch slave cylinder.

Good for you ! What type of oil & filter do you use and how often do you change? Thanks

ps - yea that plastic bushing is really a piece of crap. BTW - I assume you have had to replace the clutch at least once?

[2013ZL1FUN]

Yeah, everybody has 250K on pickups, Fords, Dodges, etc. But it's been along time since GM cars go that far.

[ABM2SS]

Good for you ! What type of oil & filter do you use and how often do you change?

Mobil1 5w30 and a A/C Delco Oil Filter. Change it when it shows around 10% Oil Life remaining. Only things I've changed on the engine were Spark Plugs (every 100,000 miles), Plug Wires, a Heater Hose and the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor. Uses less that a half-quart of oil between changes.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 2013ZL1FUN

Yeah, everybody has 250K on pickups, Fords, Dodges, etc. But it's been along time since GM cars go that far.

243k miles on my dad's Saturn SW2.

[ABM2SS]

I also owned a 1996 Cavalier Z24 that my brother-in-law had owned since 1998, between the two of us and the original owner ran-up 290,030 Miles before I sold it in 2016. probably still running.

[camguynj]

Originally Posted by ABM2SS

Mobil1 5w30 and a A/C Delco Oil Filter. Change it when it shows around 10% Oil Life remaining. Only things I've changed on the engine were Spark Plugs (every 100,000 miles), Plug Wires, a Heater Hose and the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor. Uses less that a half-quart of oil between changes.

And I thought I was the only one to change at 10% LOL Like they said in the old SNL skit ..."your car has been berry berry good" to you

[90503]

Originally Posted by 2013ZL1FUN

Yeah, everybody has 250K on pickups, Fords, Dodges, etc. But it's been along time since GM cars go that far.

170K on my 2000 GMC Z71...so far, still very reliable. I can't justify paying 60-70K or whatever for something new that's basically the same.

[95 imp]

Originally Posted by 2013ZL1FUN

Yeah, everybody has 250K on pickups, Fords, Dodges, etc. But it's been along time since GM cars go that far.

Ya... except my 2002 F150 (which I bought new) had 2 trannys, 2 rear axles, then a blown rear end, bad heater core, and a BUTT load of brakes/rotors on the front in that same 250K. Go figure....

[ssrs2lt]

Wife built Cavaliers, sunfires , cobalts at lordstown. RIP Lordstown .. If that model was used at every GM plant it's no wonder the cars didn't hold up.. Yes we had a sweet cavalracer of the z24 type. The engine was actually good. But that was 20 yrs ago. Today's auto are a long ways away in quality.. I love my multiple 5 gen Camaro s badass and strong

[LimaCharlie]

It's funny how this thread turned into a car reliability thing. In most cases, the driver makes the car unreliable. Here are some things to remember:

- The gas pedal is not an ON/OFF switch...
- The brake pedal is not an ON/OFF switch...
- Curbs and rumble strips are not the same...
- Regular maintenance is important...
- Just because it's a truck, doesn't mean it can tow 20,000 lbs...
- Just because it's a truck, doesn't mean you can take it on some 'sweet jumps'...

If you remember these points, even a 1986 Yugo can last forever.