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Old 09-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #519
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I've got a trail of 67 mm ball bearing turbos behind me that couldn't hang... Might have been the cubic inches of exhaust thrown at them, but the trail is there regardless.
Precision turbos I'm guessing? What kind of oil? Did you get a failure analysis? Still have any of the dead ones? I would bet just about anything that it's nothing to do with the turbos being too small.
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:10 PM   #520
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Precision turbos I'm guessing? What kind of oil? Did you get a failure analysis? Still have any of the dead ones? I would bet just about anything that it's nothing to do with the turbos being too small.
They are the brand you mentioned, and yes it is due to over spinning them.... We had one looked at and the compressor wheel broke... It blew the hell up... unbalanced and took the shaft out... We are so far outside the boost map the vendor you mentioned was surprised they lasted as long as they did... I blew both of em up on the drivers side... Also did this with the original journal bearing turbos I had.... and the first set of ball bearing turbos... Too many cubes spinning too high an rpm...

A friend that races turbo cars in the five/six second range told me occasionally it's a balance problem.... If they will make it two passes or so, they are fine for many passes... That's what happened with the last 67/66 I put on it... We had it overnighted and put it on, ran it less than an hour or so of mostly idle time before pouring the choriso to it and it failed... Admitted balance issue and fully warranted, no questions... and they know it's used for racing...

I stand behind the quality of items and customer service I have received from Precision... So, back on topic...

I only run amsoil, and I change the filter and oil more often than some change underwear... Every 2500 or so miles and prior to every race event...
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:11 PM   #521
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Didnt re read this whole thread but what kind of fuel upgrades does this kit include? (Injectors,bap?)
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:29 PM   #522
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80lb injectors and an MSD Voltage Booster
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:57 PM   #523
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Didnt re read this whole thread but what kind of fuel upgrades does this kit include? (Injectors,bap?)

I'd be happy to work some trade-in, or better yet go grab another SS then you'll have a ECS & AGP kit!!!

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Ben answered your question already though.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:44 PM   #524
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Just changed out a scavenge system on a 2010 camaro custom TT kit that was brought to us. The car smoked on startup and on decel/rev. Removed the pump, lines, brackets, installed the AGP Scavenge system. This included the AGP pump, filter, billet oil cap adapter, hoses, timer, and wiring harness. This is now the second time we have changed out a scavenge system that was inferior, and the AGP worked like a charm.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:07 PM   #525
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80lb injectors and an MSD Voltage Booster
And how much power will that support?
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:17 PM   #526
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Alright, after reading this thread for the 2nd time, i am starting to waffle over to the AGP kit vs a custom fabbed setup using PT6766 units.

Couple questions though. After much research and brain picking, I have figured for my goals (up to 1200rwhp, but 1000-1100 initially) that the PT6766 or similar sized turbo is what i need to not over task the turbos. No E85 available here but i do blend in Torch for intank octane of about 96 and my compression ratio static is about 9.4 to one with -23cc Wiseco coated pistons

So what BW unit is similar to the 6766 that has 66mm inducer 87mm exducer on the compressor side and 67mm exducer and 75.5mm inducer on the turbine. I was gonna go with .96A/R T4 turbine housings and 4 in inlet and 2.5 in discharge on the compressor.

Also, with my Mast black label 6 bolt heads, the OEM manifolds will not work so i need custom built manifolds or maybe 2" shorties. What are the options with the AGP kit? Love the attention to detail that seems evident with this kit.

I am hoping to get ADM to take this on.
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Alright, after reading this thread for the 2nd time, i am starting to waffle over to the AGP kit vs a custom fabbed setup using PT6766 units.

Couple questions though. After much research and brain picking, I have figured for my goals (up to 1200rwhp, but 1000-1100 initially) that the PT6766 or similar sized turbo is what i need to not over task the turbos. No E85 available here but i do blend in Torch for intank octane of about 96 and my compression ratio static is about 9.4 to one with -23cc Wiseco coated pistons

So what BW unit is similar to the 6766 that has 66mm inducer 87mm exducer on the compressor side and 67mm exducer and 75.5mm inducer on the turbine. I was gonna go with .96A/R T4 turbine housings and 4 in inlet and 2.5 in discharge on the compressor.

Also, with my Mast black label 6 bolt heads, the OEM manifolds will not work so i need custom built manifolds or maybe 2" shorties. What are the options with the AGP kit? Love the attention to detail that seems evident with this kit.

I am hoping to get ADM to take this on.
Good decision to use ADM over over SNL (Monster Clutches). Andy will take care of you AND make 1100 rwhp. I also think its wise to use a kit that is proven versus a "custom" kit that is new and unproven.

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Good decision to use ADM over over SNL (Monster Clutches). Andy will take care of you AND make 1100 rwhp. I also think its wise to use a kit that is proven versus a "custom" kit that is new and unproven.

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SNL has done a lot on my car and have been outstanding. This agp kit has me pretty impressed and I know Andy is a vendor and is a great shop with experience with it.
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Bull, I was told the s261s will absolutely support 1200rwhp. Ben mentioned custom setups. I'm sure you could probably send turbos back in for a wheel size change if you wanted to. Or just talk to Ben and see what he recommends per his post
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SNL has done a lot on my car and have been outstanding. This agp kit has me pretty impressed and I know Andy is a vendor and is a great shop with experience with it.
I'm excited to see your car maxed out!
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:29 PM   #531
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Bull, I have the pictures and some of the info you were asking about, but I'm inclined to agree with you on this possible decision...

If I was starting out rather than neck deep, I would almost assuredly go with the AGP kit... I'm in houston right now with no access to send the pics but I'll take care of it Friday....
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:29 PM   #532
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Basically 51mms should max out around ~900rwhp, 56ss ~1050, 61s will do 1200+. Then Ben can do the bigger ones if someone really wanted 1400+.

For manifolds you would have to do something like Emma did and do ARH shorties/etc that keep the stock cat location. CA2010SH is the part number. Direct fit to factory cats so they should work.
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