Sat in Camaro today, some disappointment

[ArcAngel]

gtahvit just outta curiosity isnt GM the company that 70% of the American population say they wouldn't buy from,Thats because of perception from the 80's of crappy interiors and crappy cars. Now my point in the above post was if a few of us enthusiasts which are a more loyal and forgiving bunch are left less than satisfied, how will the general public perceive it!

[Tal]

Originally Posted by PD123

http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/78...b80177e6ab.htm

It doesn't look hard to get into the back seat.

More of a pain if the seats adjusted for a taller driver.

[bigd1276]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

gtahvit just outta curiosity isnt GM the company that 70% of the American population say they wouldn't buy from,Thats because of perception from the 80's of crappy interiors and crappy cars. Now my point in the above post was if a few of us enthusiasts which are a more loyal and forgiving bunch are left less than satisfied, how will the general public perceive it!

Maybe we're just more picky than the general public.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

gtahvit just outta curiosity isnt GM the company that 70% of the American population say they wouldn't buy from,Thats because of perception from the 80's of crappy interiors and crappy cars. Now my point in the above post was if a few of us enthusiasts which are a more loyal and forgiving bunch are left less than satisfied, how will the general public perceive it!

Look I get it that you aren't happy with the car. I get it that you aren't convinced that the car will sell as well as GM hopes it will. I get that you have every right to be critical of the car. Here's what I don't get. What constructive criticism do you have to make the car better. Why is it so hard for you to get that some of us are satisfied with the car and we, quite possibly, outnumber those that don't. Therefore the same argument applies; More people will like it better than the competition. You can't reciprocate the same respect that we show you in acknowledging your opinion of the car.

The respect of opposing opinions goes both ways. Right?

[OUR72GTO]

Power passenger FORWARD is TOO SLOW with a wind chill of minus 40. Some one's butt will freeze off while you wait. The set up is the same as the Accord Coupe.

Lighted visors in a sports car are like ash trays... some thing from another age.

[ArcAngel]

bigd1276 we are more forgiving because we believe in Camaro and GM! The General Public could give two shits!! They dont care about GM if it goes under. All they care about is if I'm spending x what do I get. Cmon the general public wont know the difference between the LS3 and L99 , let alone the brembos or reg brakes . All they will see is 38000 for a v8 fully loaded Camaro, cheapy looking interior , no nav, etc etc and complain.

[bobby35ny]

Guys, don't get the wrong idea, There are TONS of positives on this car. I just had a few gripes and told you them. It's my thoughts that I'm sharing. You can agree or disagree its all good. Keep in mind I really didnt go thru the Chally like I did the Camaro. I might go thru the Chally and run back and kiss the Camaro...

=bobby

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

When you see it in person, getting the person out is the problem. FYI the seat in the video is already moved up.

-bobby

In jax, I sat in the back seat with someone in front of me. They adjusted the seat to their liking. I don't remember their height but they were of "normal" height. I was able to let myself out by lifting up on the lever in the back of the seat just fine.

Basically my impression is that if the seat is adjusted so there's enough room to sit in the back, it's already adjusted to where you can get in/out from the back.

[ArcAngel]

Gtahvit I'm not trying to disrespect at all my anguish comes from the fact that GM fails continually and everytime they say they learn they screw up. I want them to have there glory again and be the talk of America and the pride of this country. It kills me when I here people come into my restaurant and tear down GM!!! The problem is a lot of there arguments are valid

[bobby35ny]

Originally Posted by OUR72GTO

Lighted visors in a sports car are like ash trays... some thing from another age.

Oh man, is my age showing? LOL

=bobby

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

trm002 thats an invalid comparison those are aftermarket add ons that arent part of the MSRP...if you are cross shopping this car with cars in its price range/performance it has an interior un worthy of the 38000 sticker. Thats his and my and a few other guys point on here

So are you telling me the SE Challenger has different seats/interior than the R/T Challenger which, of course, has different seats/interior than the SRT8? The reason I used the comparisons I used were just to illustrate "pricey" items. We know you can upgrade a 31k 1SS to the RS (+$1200) sunroof (+$900) 21" rims/tires (+$4680)... So now 31k becomes $37780 with factory options. Again, why is the interior all of a sudden substandard because the price is now roughly 38k instead of 31k ? Maybe I'm missing something really easy... It is late you know.

[bigd1276]

Speaking of the Chally, I did get to sit in that and I wasn't impressed at all. Just my opinion of course.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

In jax, I sat in the back seat with someone in front of me. They adjusted the seat to their liking. I don't remember their height but they were of "normal" height. I was able to let myself out by lifting up on the lever in the back of the seat just fine.

Basically my impression is that if the seat is adjusted so there's enough room to sit in the back, it's already adjusted to where you can get in/out from the back.

I'm 5'9" I adjusted the front seat to where I'd drive comfortably. Then I hopped in the back seat and was able to sit and get in and out with no problems... for a two door that is.

[ArcAngel]

^^ I agree with the Chally...its interior is a patchwork at best