Centrifigal s/c VS whipple

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Dont make me post what a 2010 Cadillac CTSV
Can do with TVS 1900.....4400lb at 10.5 quarter mile on drag radials.

Ask ECS "The Centri Kings" what they saw at LSX last weekend.

[2K11SS]

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Dont make me post what a Cadillac Ctsv
Can do with tbs 1900.....4400lb at 10.5 quarter mile.

Ask ECS the centri kings what they saw at LSX.

Post it! I would love to see it.

[2L82RUN]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Agreed, well said and exactly why I went w/ the Whipple.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by BlownChevy

This is the age old battle, what is better this or that.....

Here is my .02 since you asked:

A PD supercharger is better for a street driven car, the centrifugal is very peaky and requires RPM to generate the boost. You need to ask yourself some questions:

#1 How do you drive?
#2 What are your goals with the car
#3 Budget
#4 Can the supercharger system grow with your requirements

Before I see one more person rip on Andy, that man has more integrity and experience with both Magnuson and Procharger than most on this site. He did not come in here to sell anything, he did not force an opinion on anyone, he just posted a video.

Andy has earned my respect over the years with his stand up work ethic and integrity that is second to none.


In closing, if I had a choice between a Whipple and a Centrifugal , it would be the Whipple hands down, period, end of discussion.

There are many new customers since the Gen 5 Camaro has appeared and most are not educated on the LS engine like us that have been around since the beginning.I find that these customers seem to get swayed 1 direction easily,Unfortunantly this is not what I do every day.

If one was to do all the research on My company they would find that we have built every aspect of LS ENGINE with EVERY COMBINATION THAT EXISTS.

All my experience with HEAVY VEHICLES (2006-2009 Trailblazer SS,All Pontiacs,All Cadillacs past to present,All 5th Gen Camaros)has shown me that
you need as much power and torque in the lower RPM RANGE to get these things moving( It is Physics).This is why we choose small twin turbos or Positive displacement Superchargers.The torque multiplication with proper size of either will always give you over the top performance,But the turbo will far out do the Positive displacement SC for both torque and Horsepower.

Now that you see were I stand,You will see that we have done some pretty heavy hitting Vortech ,Procharger builds......Yes they Make fantastic Power but they lack heavily in the low rpm drivability,True street cars spend most of their time between 1800-3500 rpm.....You will not see the benefit of a Centri at those speeds.But to be fair to all the centri guys you will see excellent results from 3500(average based on my real life experience) on up to redline.Were lies the problem now....There is no problem if that is your choice.

I would like to say that the video was 2 cars we had the pleasure of building.The maggie car was a great combo..Infact at the time very hard to beat.The procharger would have pulled that maggie after the 1/4 mile...But it is what it is.As far as being funny...Not at all!


To BULLF-16 :

I would love to see your car run at the track sometime,I have many positive displacement cars out there that make the same power you do that would also like to line up with you just to see how they compare.We recently had our first customer Jump from a Maggie TVS 2300 Automatic that ran consistant 7.0-6.95 eighth mile and believes he is making a wise choice by going to Centri blower.He will be at the track and he will get to line up with some of his old Positive displacement brothers,Should be interesting to say the least.


Keeping this post alive ....Hoping other experienced vendors speak their experience i have

[JUISSD]

I agree that the PD blowers are much stronger below 3500 rpm. My feelings are, I don't race up to 3500 rpm and shut down. I wanted a blower that would make big power so I went with a big centri. Yes this is a street car. If I wanted a milder set up a PD blower might be a better choice though. It's all up to the individual and what their wants and goals are. There's no blanket right or wrong answer. Just my 2 cents.

[8cd03gro]

The way I see it, PD blower or turbo. Nothing wrong with a nice centri and if it's what you prefer go for it, I just don't like the linear build-up of power with the centri's as much as the brick wall of torque you get with the PD blowers and properly sized turbo setups.

[Inferno LSX]

It's funny how there is a debate of what's better. I'll tell you all what's better, any forced induction system is better than, no forced induction system. The best thing is that we have a choice of maybe a turbo, twin turbo, centri, or a PD type. Every one has some sort of advantage, or it wouldn't exist anymore.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Inferno LS3

It's funny how there is a debate of what's better. I'll tell you all what's better, any forced induction system is better than, no forced induction system. The best thing is that we have a choice of maybe a turbo, twin turbo, centri, or a PD type. Every one has some sort of advantage, or it wouldn't exist anymore.

It's all about preference.

[Chris@SPMC]

Imo if you don't like down shifting then get the PD blower as it'll make more low end power, but it's a big heat soak on top of the engine and as with the Terminator Cobras they slow down the hotter they get or more times they run. A linear powerband is easier to put power down as well. Though I don't think that video is a fair comparison as one vette was on DR and the other street tires or so it appeared from the burnout. Plus the silver(z06) was a manual and spun badly, vs the vert which was an auto. Not sure of the power of either, but a role race would have been a fairer comparison.

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by JUISSD

I agree that the PD blowers are much stronger below 3500 rpm. My feelings are, I don't race up to 3500 rpm and shut down. I wanted a blower that would make big power so I went with a big centri. Yes this is a street car. If I wanted a milder set up a PD blower might be a better choice though. It's all up to the individual and what their wants and goals are. There's no blanket right or wrong answer. Just my 2 cents.

i agree. i dont start until 3500rpms

[ace2777]

very happy with my centri... the power is there when i want it, and its easy to drive in the city.
nothing better than down shifting into the power band of a centri set up and having your head slammed against the headrest, like most have said it depends on what your preference is.

[BullF-16]

in my 2 weeks experience with the procharger D1-sc centri. Downshifting is an artform to max perform this blower. Once you figure it out.....whiplash FTMFW!!!! I have figured out that at about 30 mph or so down shifting to 2nd puts the centri right in the heart of the power band and is good up to 70 MPH, then shift to 3rd and spin the wheels to 105 mph, by that time....its pretty much overIf you still need more, 4th is good all the way up till 150 and it comes real fast.

Stepping on the gas below 2500 rpm is useless with a centri against a PD, you gotta know how to use your RPMs then it is really fun. YMMV. Thanks again SNLPerformance.com and Procharger

[mgoodbar]

I agree with the above statment. its all about how you want to drive. my ss has no FI, my buddy has a older vortek on his 2000 camaro. at the track he ran a 12.0 flat. I ran a 13.3 best time. how ever if we kick down at say 70 mph he goes no were till he gets into the 3500 and up range... this is were a PD would shine. but keep on going and the vortek will win out. he did not have to do any thing to the rear of his car. 12.0, in a 1/4 were a PD would need some serious help to keep the tires on the wheel and to keep from breaking stuff. I personally would have a maggie or wipple. thats how I drive..

[BLACK10]

It's great to have options!!