03-31-2013, 07:45 PM | #267 | |
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LateBrakeU2: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Let's hope this is the approach GM will take. |
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03-31-2013, 10:55 PM | #268 | |
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Still, as much of a value and bang for the buck as the 1LE is- if this one comes in at 30k higher than one of those it's at the oppostie end of bargain spectrum. It will be all the money, most will be driven to cars and coffee to be drooled over, few will be actually tracked, and even fewer still will ever be driven anywhere close to the limit of this cars capabilites. It's a purpose built road racer, 90% of owners will launch them same as ZL1's at the stoplight nationals like the kids do with AWD Subaru's. To each his own |
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04-01-2013, 03:36 AM | #269 | |
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The 2SS is going to have AC because it will serve a DD function and it will be my cruiser/track car. I am a noob at this, and with the 1LE package, it will help in my comfort level to adjust to driving on those road courses that I can get on. After a few years of experience, then I'll decide what changes in regards to a vehicle I will get, whether it be a Corvette or a Camaro. There is nothing wrong with the GM cars that I have owned for the last decade, other than regular maintenance and last year I had a heater core replaced out of my 2006 Grand Prix (117,000 miles), other than that, it's been one of the better cars that I have owned.
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04-01-2013, 03:55 AM | #270 | |
BeckyD Rocks :-)
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I lived through the 80's check my sig. I know what you are talking about. I would like to have a Z28 too, but this Z/28 is a serious car and my feeling is the intention for GM to create these cars are for people who have racing experience and to get them out and race them and conquer the tracks with them like in the beginning. This will create demand, because any of us that have that racing gene in us are going to lust after that car if it kicks butt on the circuit. I'm sure over the course of the year, we might hear the how and why GM is coming out with this halo car for a reason. My feeling is GM has something up it's sleeve in regard's to the Z/28 and we'll have to bide our time until the information gets out. In the meantime, we'll have to wait to see if we can have some form of a Z28 in the near future.
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04-01-2013, 04:13 AM | #271 |
BeckyD Rocks :-)
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I would like to see it with an LT1(enhanced tune) with a CAI, optional cloth or leather Recaro's, optional AC, optional RS package, 1LE suspension, ZL1 or CTS-V brakes with SS brake lines, all necessary coolers, 4 square tire and wheel setup, optional electronic track pack info center (w/ hud) like the Mustangs have 48k loaded, 42 stripped.
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04-01-2013, 11:13 AM | #272 |
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$56,550 (ZL1 Base)
-13,950 (LSA Engine) +17,100 (LS7 Engine) $59,700 (Z/28 Base) And that's assuming the swap from Magnetic Ride control and all the amenities of the ZL1 are roughly equivalent in price to the suspension, seats, and difference in wiring harness price (which is really the only difference between the SS, ZL1 and Z/28). *See Note below. So, call it $59,995 (which we all know that $5 makes a huge difference in people's perception of price/value) and there's your Base MSRP for the new Z/28. *Note: What other differences are there in the two cars? -The Z/28 rear seat construction by itself is probably less expensive to build than the ZL1/SS rear seat construction. -The reduction in insulation is a reduction in price (albeit small). -The difference in hood price (and other carbon fiber parts) is probably a significant cost difference from the ZL1 to the Z/28, which probably offsets the price difference of the Z/28 Recaro seats or the ceramic brakes. And lets face it, if the Base MSRP is any higher than $60k, then the Camaro is beginning to encroach on Corvette pricing, which is probably not what Chevrolet/GM wants. I'm guessing Chevrolet wants a seamless transition from Camaro pricing to Corvette pricing, and I'm guessing the Base 2014 Corvette Stingray will still outperform the Base 2014 Camaro Z/28. So, you'll end up with a lineup thusly: $24,245 Camaro 1LS $25,445 Camaro 2LS $26,660 Camaro 1LT $29,585 Camaro 2LT $33,535 Camaro 1SS $36,035 Camaro 1SS/1LE $37,035 Camaro 2SS $39,535 Camaro 2SS/1LE $56,550 Camaro ZL1 $59,995 Camaro Z/28 $64,995 Corvette Stingray
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04-01-2013, 12:01 PM | #274 | |
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04-01-2013, 12:28 PM | #275 |
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$62,828.28
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04-01-2013, 12:37 PM | #276 | |
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04-01-2013, 01:32 PM | #278 | |
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My guess is MSRP: $59,995. |
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04-01-2013, 01:33 PM | #279 |
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The struts/shocks are pretty exotic too....
Recaro's are ~$3000 option on CTS-V. Different seat than the Z/28 seats, but with the rear seat mod, it may be higher cost.
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I think you're right. Considering how much overlap there already is in the pricing of the Corvettes and Camaros, I'm guessing that should actually be $54,995.
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In other words, find a dollar value for the ZL1 brake system, then estimate a dollar value of the carbon ceramic system that's planned, and determine a dollar value difference, and I'll throw it on my estimate. How much do you think the ZL1 tires and wheels cost? Or do you honestly believe the Z/28 wheels and tires cost $3,000 more than the current ZL1 wheels and tires? Quote:
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