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Old 06-22-2018, 10:00 AM   #15
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That may very well be true , but he paid good money for a direct fit set of headers . He should get in spec quality that fit without dimpling for his money. If the Manufacturer sent out of spec headers they should give him a discount or replace them with in spec direct fit headers. What brand of headers are they ? IMHO the manufacture should know so they can correct the problem and stop shipping out of spec headers . If they have a QC problem , it needs to be addressed .

Nothing is an exact fit....unless you machine it yourself. Despite their claims, all these headers are mass produced. Many sets of SW, ARH and Kooks have been dimpled. Yet my OBX fit fine. It's what it is. OP, you can wast a lot of time and throw all kinds of money at it just to have them still hit. Dimple and be done.
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:04 PM   #16
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There should be a sticky on here for companies that are shipping out of spec products and refuse to remedy the problem so others here don't get taken advantage of .A simple list of the offenders products that don't deliver as promised .
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Old 06-22-2018, 05:46 PM   #17
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This is where it is hitting
this confirms the quality of engineering speed is falling. 2 friends bought the headers and both came with clearance failure on the direct side, just like the photo. the 3 "inch bracket definitely does not seal the leak is unpleasant.the solution was unfortunately to make a tooth in the header, and buy replacement bracket on ebay.
these failures is probably the number of requests in this header. they are not of the same quality.
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Old 06-22-2018, 06:11 PM   #18
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Nothing is an exact fit....unless you machine it yourself. Despite their claims, all these headers are mass produced. Many sets of SW, ARH and Kooks have been dimpled. Yet my OBX fit fine. It's what it is. OP, you can wast a lot of time and throw all kinds of money at it just to have them still hit. Dimple and be done.
This isn't rocket science ,the Camaro is a mas produced car and not a hand built one off car . As such a part made to fit it should fit without modification . The headers are out of spec . It is a quality control issue . Even the best company can have a issue ,but a real first class company will correct the problem and replace it so the customer doesn't have to monkey rig it up to work .
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:06 PM   #19
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This isn't rocket science ,the Camaro is a mas produced car and not a hand built one off car . As such a part made to fit it should fit without modification . The headers are out of spec . It is a quality control issue . Even the best company can have a issue ,but a real first class company will correct the problem and replace it so the customer doesn't have to monkey rig it up to work .
Agreed. Working in aerospace for 22 years even I know that sometimes quality slips. A good company will take care of it's customer. Either way, I was fortunate to only have to make a tiny flat on the tube. It works for me.

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Old 06-23-2018, 06:48 PM   #20
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Moving the engine will cause way more issues than either fixing the mounts, dimpling, or replacing will cause. I would be absolutely sure the mounts are good then ask for replacement. Failing them replacing them I would just dimple them and move on with life.
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Another reason to “over pay” for American made headers. Good luck OP. Don’t move the engine though, as stated above it will cause far more problems than what it is worth.
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:40 PM   #22
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Moving the engine will cause way more issues than either fixing the mounts, dimpling, or replacing will cause. I would be absolutely sure the mounts are good then ask for replacement. Failing them replacing them I would just dimple them and move on with life.
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Another reason to “over pay” for American made headers. Good luck OP. Don’t move the engine though, as stated above it will cause far more problems than what it is worth.
If you read the thread, I did handle it with a simple flat on the tube.

As far as over paying.. even people who pay for high end headers have had issues. The difference being is how the company responds apparently. I can tell you though I'd rather pay $300 for headers and have to mess around a little bit then pay 3-4 times more for no reason other than the possibility of having to have better customer service experience. I'm sure some people feel the same and some feel different. In the end they do the job and look good installed so it's all good.

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Old 06-25-2018, 06:43 AM   #23
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If you read the thread, I did handle it with a simple flat on the tube.

As far as over paying.. even people who pay for high end headers have had issues. The difference being is how the company responds apparently. I can tell you though I'd rather pay $300 for headers and have to mess around a little bit then pay 3-4 times more for no reason other than the possibility of having to have better customer service experience. I'm sure some people feel the same and some feel different. In the end they do the job and look good installed so it's all good.

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I did read it and I'm glad you got it straightened out. The "don't move the engine comment" was another reaffirmation of don't do that for someone who reads this thread down the road with the same idea you started out with.

As for the "over paid" high price headers, you don't get the frequency of issues that you do with budget headers. Yes the customer service is substantially better, but I didn't like having my car in the air in an already too tight garage any longer than I had to. Besides, I like buying American. I know it's silly or doesn't make much difference to many people, but it's what I like to do. So far all of my vehicle upgrades have been American made products. I'm a "job creator"!
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:56 AM   #24
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I did read it and I'm glad you got it straightened out. The "don't move the engine comment" was another reaffirmation of don't do that for someone who reads this thread down the road with the same idea you started out with.

As for the "over paid" high price headers, you don't get the frequency of issues that you do with budget headers. Yes the customer service is substantially better, but I didn't like having my car in the air in an already too tight garage any longer than I had to. Besides, I like buying American. I know it's silly or doesn't make much difference to many people, but it's what I like to do. So far all of my vehicle upgrades have been American made products. I'm a "job creator"!
As a guy who works in American manufacturing, I am with you on that. Sometimes I cheap out and this is one of those times. Ha Ha
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Do people who think shifting an engine 1/8" will cause major issues wear tin foil hats? Asking for a friend...
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Do people who think shifting an engine 1/8" will cause major issues wear tin foil hats? Asking for a friend...
An 1/8 of an inch won't make any damn diff unless your wearing a Stetson Diamante 1000x .
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:31 PM   #28
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I installed my set this past weekend. Didn't run into any clearance issues. The lowest clearance from tube to contact is .25".
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