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pdiddy · 07-12-2013, 07:40 AM

So I am getting my carmaro custom dyno tuned tomorrow for my maggie with the stok pulley. I have long tube headers, high flow cats and exhaust 3.91 gears, 20" DR, CAI, and a M6 car My best friend is getting his mustang tuned via data log system of some sort tomorrow as well he is running 15 MT Dr, 100 shot plate system, 4.10 gears, manual, boss intake, stock manifolds and exhaust. What does everyone think will be the outcome of a 1/4. Before the power adders we raced through third and it was a half a car to the mustang then a missed gear.

shaffe · 07-12-2013, 07:55 AM

In the 1/4 im still going to give the edge to the Mustang. If I am reading your post correctly, you said you were raced before and he was ahead of you by a half car before you missed a gear?

He has everything in his advantage IMO for a 1/4 race. His car is lighter, and those mods are really effective ones for Mustangs. But perhaps the biggest advantage is he is running MT drag radials on a 15" wheel while you are running drag radials on a 20" wheel. His car basically is a proper drag setup, if he can drive I think hes gonna take you.

pdiddy · 07-12-2013, 08:01 AM

I think he will win as well and yes half a car before I missed third, or hit rev limmiter I cant remember which one it was either way needed the driver mod that day. The weight is a killer and the big wheels def dont help

87GNX · 07-12-2013, 09:20 AM

mustang will take it.

BiggFoot · 07-12-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pdiddy

So I am getting my carmaro custom dyno tuned tomorrow for my maggie with the stok pulley. I have long tube headers, high flow cats and exhaust 3.91 gears, 20" DR, CAI, and a M6 car My best friend is getting his mustang tuned via data log system of some sort tomorrow as well he is running 15 MT Dr, 100 shot plate system, 4.10 gears, manual, boss intake, stock manifolds and exhaust. What does everyone think will be the outcome of a 1/4. Before the power adders we raced through third and it was a half a car to the mustang then a missed gear.

If you had a 100 shot like your buddy with the mustang it would probably be no contest. A decent cam could add 35-45 hp. Get a cam for the win and pick you up a couple of 18" rims for the back just for track days.

Deki · 07-13-2013, 05:53 PM

How would the Mustang still win against his Camaro with the Maggie on it? I'm confused. I think the SS has a better chance here. OP, how much power are you looking to be putting down?

Slickcas · 07-14-2013, 05:49 AM

Maggie with a stock pully is a ok bump in power. Makes for a very fun Streetcar but no race car. With only 5-5.5 boost and over 100lbs in parts. But pully down just a bit and get to 8-10 psi boost and your friend will be buying the next round after you get done racing.

A pully and a belt is very cheap.

shaffe · 07-15-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Deki

How would the Mustang still win against his Camaro with the Maggie on it? I'm confused. I think the SS has a better chance here. OP, how much power are you looking to be putting down?

BC the Mustang would now be running 4.10 gears, Boss Intake, on 15" MT drag radials, and a 100 shot of nitrous...IMO all those things in a lighter car give the mustang the advantage over the supercharged Camaro in the 1/4

swiftkart · 07-15-2013, 11:36 AM

Mustang should run 10.90's with that setup, there are a few around here setup that way that do, I don't think a SS with just a maggie will run in the 10's, at least I haven't seen it, with a cam/maggie also, yes they can get into the 10's.

pdiddy · 07-15-2013, 12:41 PM

So I went and got my car tuned for the maggie and made 540 rwhp, same day same time same dyno my friend with the 5.0 dynoed at 510 with the 100 shot. I dont know that 30hp will be enough to make up for the weight but time will tell

LSXaddict · 07-15-2013, 01:42 PM

This should be really close imo. You have +30hp on him and the advantage of a blower and that power being on the whole time vs the spray. But he is lighter and even more so in important places like his 15" wheels plus he has 4.10's to your 3.91's. I think it will be a drivers/ traction race.

shaffe · 07-16-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pdiddy

So I went and got my car tuned for the maggie and made 540 rwhp, same day same time same dyno my friend with the 5.0 dynoed at 510 with the 100 shot. I dont know that 30hp will be enough to make up for the weight but time will tell

Should be hell of a race, equal driver skill I give slight edge to Mustang still due to lighter, better gearing and 15" wheels.

LSXaddict · 10-06-2013, 07:26 PM

So who won?

VADER SS L99 · 10-06-2013, 09:39 PM

He should of put a slightly smaller pulley on that set up since he was using LT headers and custom dyno tune. I don't think 30rwhp is enough to overcome the weight difference and a 15" rear tire. Remember that a Maggie will add 100lbs and our cars can only use 18" rear DR's unless crazy expensive wheels, suspension and brake mods are used.

07-12-2013, 07:40 AM	#1
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	The famous chevy vs ford what do you think?? So I am getting my carmaro custom dyno tuned tomorrow for my maggie with the stok pulley. I have long tube headers, high flow cats and exhaust 3.91 gears, 20" DR, CAI, and a M6 car My best friend is getting his mustang tuned via data log system of some sort tomorrow as well he is running 15 MT Dr, 100 shot plate system, 4.10 gears, manual, boss intake, stock manifolds and exhaust. What does everyone think will be the outcome of a 1/4. Before the power adders we raced through third and it was a half a car to the mustang then a missed gear. __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-12-2013, 08:01 AM	#3
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	I think he will win as well and yes half a car before I missed third, or hit rev limmiter I cant remember which one it was either way needed the driver mod that day. The weight is a killer and the big wheels def dont help __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-13-2013, 05:53 PM	#6
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	How would the Mustang still win against his Camaro with the Maggie on it? I'm confused. I think the SS has a better chance here. OP, how much power are you looking to be putting down? __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

07-15-2013, 12:41 PM	#10
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	So I went and got my car tuned for the maggie and made 540 rwhp, same day same time same dyno my friend with the 5.0 dynoed at 510 with the 100 shot. I dont know that 30hp will be enough to make up for the weight but time will tell __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

07-15-2013, 01:42 PM	#11
LSXaddict Drives: 1ss in Blue Ray Metallic Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 384	This should be really close imo. You have +30hp on him and the advantage of a blower and that power being on the whole time vs the spray. But he is lighter and even more so in important places like his 15" wheels plus he has 4.10's to your 3.91's. I think it will be a drivers/ traction race. __________________ 2013 1SS M6 with Flowmaster Pro 10 axle back and CAGS shift skip eliminator

07-12-2013, 07:55 AM	#2
shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,024	In the 1/4 im still going to give the edge to the Mustang. If I am reading your post correctly, you said you were raced before and he was ahead of you by a half car before you missed a gear? He has everything in his advantage IMO for a 1/4 race. His car is lighter, and those mods are really effective ones for Mustangs. But perhaps the biggest advantage is he is running MT drag radials on a 15" wheel while you are running drag radials on a 20" wheel. His car basically is a proper drag setup, if he can drive I think hes gonna take you.

07-12-2013, 09:20 AM	#4
87GNX Drives: Alot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norcalifas Posts: 1,337	mustang will take it.

07-14-2013, 05:49 AM	#7
Slickcas Drives: 12' 2SS/RS LS3 IBM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Odin. ILL Posts: 487 View My Garage	Maggie with a stock pully is a ok bump in power. Makes for a very fun Streetcar but no race car. With only 5-5.5 boost and over 100lbs in parts. But pully down just a bit and get to 8-10 psi boost and your friend will be buying the next round after you get done racing. A pully and a belt is very cheap.

07-15-2013, 11:36 AM	#9
swiftkart Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 693	Mustang should run 10.90's with that setup, there are a few around here setup that way that do, I don't think a SS with just a maggie will run in the 10's, at least I haven't seen it, with a cam/maggie also, yes they can get into the 10's.

10-06-2013, 07:26 PM	#13
LSXaddict Drives: 1ss in Blue Ray Metallic Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 384	So who won? __________________ 2013 1SS M6 with Flowmaster Pro 10 axle back and CAGS shift skip eliminator

10-06-2013, 09:39 PM	#14
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	He should of put a slightly smaller pulley on that set up since he was using LT headers and custom dyno tune. I don't think 30rwhp is enough to overcome the weight difference and a 15" rear tire. Remember that a Maggie will add 100lbs and our cars can only use 18" rear DR's unless crazy expensive wheels, suspension and brake mods are used. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.