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Bfh_american · 03-23-2019, 03:12 AM

Good afternoon fellas. I'm thinking about Supercharging, camming and putting some headers on my 2013 2SS. I've been researching a lot but I'd like some opinions. As of now, I only have a Borla Cat Back exhaust. Nothing crazy, but it definitely sounds mean. Car isn't gonna be on the track, or raced. This is just my project/weekend car. I treat it like a baby. Under 50k miles, had it since 28k. I don't want to be too hard on the engine, at all. I want to preserve this car for a long time. I was looking at a Whipple SC. Seems like a good SC for a daily. As far as camming and headers, I'm not as sure. I was reading and the different stages are a concern. I don't want something that's going to overstress the engine, but that deep rumble is what is appealing to me. As well as the HP increase. Also, with headers, I'm under the influence that long tubes are more for racing, so I'd go with regular headers? I appreciate the advice in advance. After all said and done, I'll get it professionally tuned and dyno'd. I just want to do this right. This will be my first time delving into Cams and Super chargers.

hammdo · 03-23-2019, 09:46 AM

LSA Supercharger kit from ADM Performance — stock look, great manners, good power increase. Headers help it breathe — on any supercharger setup.

ADM has been a sponsor in the past but you may need to call them...

Disclosure:

I have the kit and wrote the install guide but, really feel this is a great kit — since it’s basically a ZL1 factory setup. Will need a startup tune though...

-Don

Moreair1 · 03-23-2019, 04:19 PM

Like hammdo said, I would go with a lsa blower, then remember to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors for safety(or atleast a boost a pump and injectors), as far as cam your not going want to do anything too aggressive so you can enjoys just cruising it, plus I wouldnt waste time with shorties and just go with long tube headers, as far as reliability the key is going be your tuner, so really research them before you decide on who is tuning the car

Bfh_american · 03-24-2019, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Moreair1

Like hammdo said, I would go with a lsa blower, then remember to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors for safety(or atleast a boost a pump and injectors), as far as cam your not going want to do anything too aggressive so you can enjoys just cruising it, plus I wouldnt waste time with shorties and just go with long tube headers, as far as reliability the key is going be your tuner, so really research them before you decide on who is tuning the car

Any suggestions on which Cam? Thanks for the fast response. I def will check out the LSA blower. I appreciate the responses from you and Hammdo!

racesloth · 03-24-2019, 07:33 AM

With you wanting to keep engine stress low, I feel this Cammotion cam would work great with an LSA blower.

http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/p...-displacement/

Moreair1 · 03-24-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bfh_american

Any suggestions on which Cam? Thanks for the fast response. I def will check out the LSA blower. I appreciate the responses from you and Hammdo!

I would contact a cam manufacturer and describe what street habits your looking for with the set up your planning and they can recommend the perfect cam for you

sscamaro · 03-24-2019, 11:59 AM

It all depends how much HP you are looking for. My SS is a street car, so I didn't go with a cam. With the Edelbrock E-Force SC and Kooks LT headers I have 546/rwhp and 522/rwtq. At the crank it is 642HP and 614Torc. Other adders were ZL1 fuel pump, 72# injectors and dyno tune.

See below for all mods.

hammdo · 03-24-2019, 01:27 PM

LS9 cam and you get a nice bump but, won't tax the drive train (keep stock).

Headers are a plus.

I'd talk to ADM, GPI, or any sponsor here. Let them know your goals. They'll help you...

+1000 on Cam Motion

-Don

pyroguy · 03-24-2019, 08:20 PM

As someone else said, don't waste your time on shorty headers. Long tube headers are the way to go.

If you're going to go with a positive displacement supercharger like whipple then Brian Tooley Racing has a great positive displacement cam, their stage 3 is used by many shops for some excellent power gains.

Bfh_american · 03-25-2019, 09:07 AM

Thanks for the info guys, I'm definitely going to reach out to some sponsors and shop around.

Bfh_american · 03-26-2019, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pyroguy

As someone else said, don't waste your time on shorty headers. Long tube headers are the way to go.

If you're going to go with a positive displacement supercharger like whipple then Brian Tooley Racing has a great positive displacement cam, their stage 3 is used by many shops for some excellent power gains.

Wouldn't stage 3 be a bit much? Stage 3's are harder on the engine? Not sure

I'm definitely looking into long tubes now. Was looking at American racing since my buddy is sponsored by them, Any thoughts on them? As long as they don't effect my installed Catback Borla, I'm straight with Long Tubes.

pyroguy · 03-26-2019, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bfh_american

Wouldn't stage 3 be a bit much? Stage 3's are harder on the engine? Not sure

I'm definitely looking into long tubes now. Was looking at American racing since my buddy is sponsored by them, Any thoughts on them? As long as they don't effect my installed Catback Borla, I'm straight with Long Tubes.

ARH long tubes are the same long tubes used on the COPO Camaros, you'll be good off. The top 3 brands are ARH, Kooks, and Stainless Works.

As for the BTR stage 3 PD cam, it's a good cam and will yield you a lot of power. Believe it or not, it's actually a well mannered cam for being as big as it is. Ask your tuner for advice, they should steer you in the right direction.

Bfh_american · 03-26-2019, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pyroguy

ARH long tubes are the same long tubes used on the COPO Camaros, you'll be good off. The top 3 brands are ARH, Kooks, and Stainless Works.

As for the BTR stage 3 PD cam, it's a good cam and will yield you a lot of power. Believe it or not, it's actually a well mannered cam for being as big as it is. Ask your tuner for advice, they should steer you in the right direction.

Got ya! Yeah, just looked over. ARH look pretty nice to be honest. Work doesn't seem too crazy too. Direct fit, plus and play. Get some RWHP boost as well. Thanks

Scott S · 03-28-2019, 10:12 AM

LSA is good choice. ADM is a great resource and available for questions if needed. I run the BTR Stage 3 PDS blower cam and love it.

03-23-2019, 03:12 AM	#1
Bfh_american Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: New Jersey Posts: 62	Supercharging and Camming Advice Good afternoon fellas. I'm thinking about Supercharging, camming and putting some headers on my 2013 2SS. I've been researching a lot but I'd like some opinions. As of now, I only have a Borla Cat Back exhaust. Nothing crazy, but it definitely sounds mean. Car isn't gonna be on the track, or raced. This is just my project/weekend car. I treat it like a baby. Under 50k miles, had it since 28k. I don't want to be too hard on the engine, at all. I want to preserve this car for a long time. I was looking at a Whipple SC. Seems like a good SC for a daily. As far as camming and headers, I'm not as sure. I was reading and the different stages are a concern. I don't want something that's going to overstress the engine, but that deep rumble is what is appealing to me. As well as the HP increase. Also, with headers, I'm under the influence that long tubes are more for racing, so I'd go with regular headers? I appreciate the advice in advance. After all said and done, I'll get it professionally tuned and dyno'd. I just want to do this right. This will be my first time delving into Cams and Super chargers.

03-23-2019, 09:46 AM	#2
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	LSA Supercharger kit from ADM Performance — stock look, great manners, good power increase. Headers help it breathe — on any supercharger setup. ADM has been a sponsor in the past but you may need to call them... Disclosure: I have the kit and wrote the install guide but, really feel this is a great kit — since it’s basically a ZL1 factory setup. Will need a startup tune though... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

03-23-2019, 04:19 PM	#3
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	Like hammdo said, I would go with a lsa blower, then remember to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors for safety(or atleast a boost a pump and injectors), as far as cam your not going want to do anything too aggressive so you can enjoys just cruising it, plus I wouldnt waste time with shorties and just go with long tube headers, as far as reliability the key is going be your tuner, so really research them before you decide on who is tuning the car __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎

03-24-2019, 07:33 AM	#5
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	With you wanting to keep engine stress low, I feel this Cammotion cam would work great with an LSA blower. http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/p...-displacement/ __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

03-24-2019, 11:59 AM	#7
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,195 View My Garage	It all depends how much HP you are looking for. My SS is a street car, so I didn't go with a cam. With the Edelbrock E-Force SC and Kooks LT headers I have 546/rwhp and 522/rwtq. At the crank it is 642HP and 614Torc. Other adders were ZL1 fuel pump, 72# injectors and dyno tune. See below for all mods. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.

03-24-2019, 01:27 PM	#8
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	LS9 cam and you get a nice bump but, won't tax the drive train (keep stock). Headers are a plus. I'd talk to ADM, GPI, or any sponsor here. Let them know your goals. They'll help you... +1000 on Cam Motion -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

03-24-2019, 08:20 PM	#9
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,918 View My Garage	As someone else said, don't waste your time on shorty headers. Long tube headers are the way to go. If you're going to go with a positive displacement supercharger like whipple then Brian Tooley Racing has a great positive displacement cam, their stage 3 is used by many shops for some excellent power gains. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

03-25-2019, 09:07 AM	#10
Bfh_american Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: New Jersey Posts: 62	Thanks for the info guys, I'm definitely going to reach out to some sponsors and shop around.

03-28-2019, 10:12 AM	#14
Scott S Scott S Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Minnesota Posts: 156	lsa BLOWER LSA is good choice. ADM is a great resource and available for questions if needed. I run the BTR Stage 3 PDS blower cam and love it. __________________ 769HP/699 Torque LS3 heads ported and polished with BTR Spring kit & Trunion upgrade, LSA supercharger ported by DC Porting, 102MM throttle Body, 2.40 pulley upper pulley, Innovators West 10% Overdrive lower, BTR Stage 3 PDS Blower Cam, Mighty Mouse Catch Can, SMG Flex Fuel kit, SMG Aux Fuel System, FIC 1000 Injectors, MGW Flat Stick Shifter, RPM Stage Vll Transmission, McLeod RXT clutch, ARH 1 7/8 Headers, 3" X-pipe with Borla S-Type mufflers, ZL1 3:23 rear diff and Axles, 1LE suspension. Bmr Bushings in back. TUNING AND SPECIAL ALIGNMENT BY CARL@Twincitiesperformance