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02-07-2017, 06:16 PM
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Drives: 2017 2SS Stick Hyper Blue Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sacramento, Ca,
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Sticks going way of Dinosours
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02-07-2017, 06:23 PM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: California
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good. I enjoy not having to get in front of my car and manually crank my motor over as well.
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02-07-2017, 06:36 PM
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Drives: 83 el camaro Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: jacksonville florida
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good points, but some things still have their place. When my LS starter unexpectedly died last year at a show, a slight push from a couple of guys in their 60's & dump the clutch saved me a tow truck call.
Also still hard to beat the feel & sound of a good engine with loud exhaust decelerating with a stick. Extends brake life also. |
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02-07-2017, 06:54 PM
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Drives: 2017 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Kelowna BC Canadialand
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I've never owned an auto and don't plan on ever owning an auto. For context I'm 21, most of my friends have no clue how to drive standard, i feel like any car enthusiast should be able to appreciate a manual transmission. I really hope it never goes away but i got a bad feeling.
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02-07-2017, 07:13 PM
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Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: College Station, TX
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 My next car will probably be an auto, some times it's a pain to shift all the time.
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02-07-2017, 07:53 PM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I'm 39, been driving nothing but stick since I was 20. I'll never own an automatic. Simple as that.
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02-07-2017, 07:59 PM
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Hail to the King baby!
Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Illinois
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You're awesome in your defiance, but since you've got a solid 50 or 60 years to go and maybe more, your plans will likely change if not get changed for you. Ever is a longggg time  Simply because machines continue to get better, faster and more integrated you will come down to "I simply enjoy rowing the gears instead of being the fastest. Pretty fast is good enough for me". I have that discussion with guys at work all the time. "It's just more fun". But it's just not as fast anymore, particularly if you are a novice. And, simply my opinion, a DCT is the best of both worlds. A machine shifted manual transmission, lightning fast up and down. And i'll bet even those are surpassed as we try to get every last bit of FE and performance from future cars.
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02-07-2017, 08:04 PM
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Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010
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As for me I would rather be more engaged in driving with the manual.
If we take the idea of that article and extrapolate not too far into the future, you will also not be needed need to drive the Camaro. Then, why buy a Camaro at all? The automatic is just one step in that direction.
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02-07-2017, 08:04 PM
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Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chino, CA
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I will drive a stick as long as my legs allow me to. I swapped a 4 speed into my Chevelle. Every car I have owned since has been a stick. I don't care how much faster autos can be, I am not a professional driver and simply enjoy the feel of driving a manual.
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02-07-2017, 08:27 PM
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Drives: TT 10' SS -> 16' SS Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Kingsville Ontario
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27 years old, both my 5th and 6th gen camaros have been auto, way better imho and also because its more of a luxury car for me personaly. Tho i do choose stick for my older sunday drivers lol
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02-07-2017, 08:41 PM
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Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: California
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I like the last paragraph. Manual is the best theft deterrent going !!
And part of the reason I will never ever valet my manual cars. I would walk a mile first! I've driven manual cars since I was 15 and the vast majority of my daily drivers and hot rod / sports cars have had them. I hate autos with a passion. Almost as much as electric and self stock driving cars. I am happy manuals will depreciate - have no issue driving older cars if they stop making good manual cars. My favorite car of the 40+ I've owned and current daily driver is a 2003 M5. They sold 10K in the US over 4 model years and all were manual. Market prices are going through the roof and I would not sell mine for pretty much any price. So there is some evidence there is still a small group of car nuts out there that likes to be completely involved in the driving process. I am part of that group. My SS is a manual. I wouldn't have it any other way. |
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02-07-2017, 08:46 PM
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Drives: 2016 Summit White 2SS Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Ontario
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My last 2 cars were manual and so is my Camaro but I drive my auto truck mostly!
all the cars were weekend toys. I will eventually end up auto I don't know when but I will shift for as long as I can just a great way of being more involved as a enthusiast! I have nothing against autos there faster now at one time it was the other way around. How times have evolved are great for the auto world they have came a long way!
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02-07-2017, 09:20 PM
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Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: California
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Auto have been faster drag racing for a long time. I ran a 63 impala for awhile set up for drag racing that ran 11.8@116-118 with a 3 speed auto and 4K stall converter. I doubt a manual would have run as quickly - especially the 1.7 sec 60' time. But I have been more into corners for a long time. And there is no substitute for the control of a manual with a clutch. In my book anyway. |
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02-07-2017, 09:53 PM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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People who knock manuals for every reason you can think of don't get it: it's FUN!
More fun than flipping paddles or taping a shift knob. And modern automatics are only negligibly faster or as fast as manuals: in the case of the Camaro SS a couple of tenths of a second. That means absolutely nothing to me when the car is stupid fast as it is. Only when drag racing will the difference count, and again that's so little one little hiccup and the manual driver could still win. Don't tell manual drivers what to think. You'll only piss us off because you simply don't get it. |
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