ls3 ss now 430hp!!!?

[gss9909]

I just had and update last night on autobook and this is what changed in the power tain tab
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2010 Retail Chevrolet Camaro 2dr Cpe 2SS 1ET37

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

POWERTRAIN - BASIC SPECIFICATIONS - 2010 Retail 1ET37 2dr Cpe 2SS



ENGINE

Engine Order Code LS3

Engine Type HO Gas V8

Displacement 6.2L/378 CID

SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM 430 @ 5900

SAE Net Torque (lb ft) @ RPM 424 @ 4600

TRANSMISSION

Transmission order code MN6

Transmission Type Description 6-Speed Manual

Drive Train Rear wheel drive

MILEAGE

City EPA fuel economy estimate (MPG) - TBD -

Hwy EPA fuel economy estimate (MPG) - TBD -

City cruising range (mi) - TBD -

Hwy cruising range (mi) - TBD -

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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

POWERTRAIN - ADVANCED SPECIFICATIONS - 2010 Retail 1ET37 2dr Cpe 2SS



TRANSMISSION

Gear Ratio (:1)

First Gear Ratio (:1) 3.01

Second Gear Ratio (:1) 2.07

Third Gear Ratio (:1) 1.43

Fourth Gear Rato (:1) 1.00

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1) 0.84

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1) 0.57

Reverse Ratio (:1) 3.28

Clutch size (in) - TBD -

Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1) 3.45

ELECTRICAL

Battery 1

Battery cold cranking Amps @ 0 F - TBD -

Alternator

Alternator Amps 150.00

COOLING SYSTEM

Cooling system capacity - TBD -

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2010 Retail Chevrolet Camaro 2dr Cpe 2SS 1ET37

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

PAYLOAD/TRAILERING SPECIFICATIONS - 2010 Retail 1ET37 2dr Cpe 2SS



WEIGHT INFORMATION

Base curb weight (lbs) 3,860.00

TRAILERING Max Trailer Wt. Max Tongue Load

Dead Weight Hitch (lbs)

Weight Distributing Hitch (lbs)

Fifth Wheel Hitch (lbs)

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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

CHASSIS SPECIFICATIONS - 2010 Retail 1ET37 2dr Cpe 2SS



SUSPENSION Front Rear

Suspension Type Multi-Link Strut 4.5-Link Independen

Suspension Type (cont.) Double Ball Joint

Shock Absorber Diameter (mm) - TBD - - TBD -

Stabilizer Bar Diameter (in) - TBD - - TBD -

BRAKES

Brake type Pwr

ABS System 4-wheel

Front Rear

Disc Yes Yes

Rotor Diam x Thickness (in) 14 x 1.26 14.4 x 1.1

Drum

Drum Diam x Width (in)

TIRES Front Rear Spare

Tire Order Code QOO QOO

Tire Size P245/45R20 P275/40R20

WHEELS Front Rear Spare

Wheel Size 20 x 8 20 x 9

Wheel Type Aluminum Aluminum

STEERING

Steering type Pwr

Ratio (:1)

Overall 16.10

Lock-to-Lock Turns 2.50

Turning Diameter

Curb-to-Curb 37.70

Wall-to-Wall - TBD -



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FUEL TANK Main

Capacity 19.00

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DIMENSIONS - 2010 Retail 1ET37 2dr Cpe 2SS



EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS

Wheelbase (in) 112.30

Length, Overall (in) 190.40

Width, Max w/o mirrors (in) 75.50

Height, Overall (in) 54.20

Tread Width

Tread Width, Front 63.7

Tread Width, Rear 63.7

Min Ground Clearance (in) - TBD -

CARGO AREA DIMENSIONS

Liftover Height (in) - TBD -

Trunk Volume 11.3

INTERIOR DIMENSIONS

Passenger Capacity 4

Passenger Volume (ft³) - TBD -

EPA Classification Compact

Seating Position Front Second

Head Room (in) 37.40 35.30

Leg Room (in) 42.40 29.90

Shoulder Room (in) 56.90 42.50

Hip Room (in) - TBD - - TBD -

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[SS4EVER]

So this means that the Camaro SS is getting the same LS3 that the Corvette has? Wow I hope this is true!

[zebra]

if that's actually true, it don't surprise me they released lower numbers first to make actual numbers seem that much better.

[1_2Many]

The Corvette LS3's are dynoing around 370 rwhp which translates to 450 crank hp (17% driveline loss). Hopefully we get the same under rated engines.

[The_Blur]

I highly doubt that they would release the same horsepower rating for both the Corvette and Camaro, even if both are underrated. This is either a typo or a mistake.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I highly doubt that they would release the same horsepower rating for both the Corvette and Camaro, even if both are underrated. This is either a typo or a mistake.

it could also just be rounding, like Jeremy on Top Gear said the ZR1 had 640hp

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I highly doubt that they would release the same horsepower rating for both the Corvette and Camaro, even if both are underrated. This is either a typo or a mistake.

With different intake and exhaust, I don't think it will be rated the same as the vette ..

Crowley

[SS4EVER]

Originally Posted by zebra

it could also just be rounding, like Jeremy on Top Gear said the ZR1 had 640hp

... If you think the LS3s are underrated.... why don't you add 10 more HP at least to what Jeremy just said about ZR1 ....

[headpunter]

Originally Posted by Crowley

With different intake and exhaust, I don't think it will be rated the same as the vette ..

Crowley

same intake manifold and the exhaust cant be that different.


im glad they are doing this, simply means they are using the same tune.

also 1_2many, 17% loss is way way high for a corvette drivetrain

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by headpunter

same intake manifold and the exhaust cant be that different.


im glad they are doing this, simply means they are using the same tune.

also 1_2many, 17% loss is way way high for a corvette drivetrain

Intake as in Air Intake .. exhaust in manifolds all the way including catback. It can certainly account for the difference from 430hp to 422hp .. that is only 8hp ..

Crowley

[Silverghost]

I tend to beleive this, you'll find GM underates their hp #'s quite often

[1_2Many]

Bone stock C6 Corvette dynoing 392 rwhp. Easy 450 hp at crank.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I highly doubt that they would release the same horsepower rating for both the Corvette and Camaro, even if both are underrated. This is either a typo or a mistake.

I don't know why you keep saying this.

I can't remember who said it, either Bob Lutz or Ed Peper. Basically they are quoted as saying they have no problems stepping on the corvette where the camaro is concerned.

I'll look for the article. Dragon found it for me once... I should have book marked it.

Found it

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I'd advise you not to use the base Corvette as a performance ceiling for the "Top Dog" Camaro.

And here's the release that where Ed Peper (Not Bob Lutz, though I think I remember him mentioning this once before, too) flat out said they aren't worried about stepping on the Corvette:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/11/d...with-ed-peper/

[headpunter]

Originally Posted by 1_2Many

Bone stock C6 Corvette dynoing 392 rwhp. Easy 450 hp at crank.

means an easy 440hp at 12% loss