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PieNsky · 05-01-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

I am venturing to guess they will continue to produce more sellable cars for dealers than they build preorders. They know we want our cars, they want more available to the masses.

Although us enthusiasts are a factor, fact remains we are a small factor in the survival of GM. They need to sell a lot more than 15,000 pre orders. It just makes sense for them to build more for the lots.

I'm about to say F*ck THEM and buy my brother-in-law's 67SS RS and a Scion XD at cost

SSOOCH · 05-01-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut

Did you NOT see all the SS's that have been delivered???

Ummm.....no

attymf · 05-01-2009, 06:05 PM

I think GM wants all of us to cancel our orders and buy Fiats. If my car is not produced and delivered in 60 days I will cancel the order just out of principle. Seriously, why sell a car that you cannot deliver. I didn't spend 40 grand to get treated like a d-bag.

If your reading this GM please take notice I will buy a Shelby in 60 days!!! (or a Fiat....cao for now)

Gameover · 05-01-2009, 06:19 PM

Boy, people need to chill out!

Arod · 05-01-2009, 06:19 PM

i CALLED THE 1800 NUMBER N THREATEN TO GO TO THE MEDIA IF NO WAS GOING TO GIVE ME AN ESTIMATED DATE OF DELIVERY! INSTEAD OF JUST SAING IT WAS IN QUALITY CONTROL FOR 6 WEEKS N COULDNT TELL ME HOW LONG IT WOULD BE THERE. NEEDLESS TO SAY 2 PHONE CALLS THE NEXT DAY THAT MY CAR WAS IN TRANSIT BY RAIL CAR! KINDA FUNNY HUH!

Matt'sSS · 05-01-2009, 06:39 PM

I absolutely understand everyone's frustration with the wait, but I'd hope everyone would be willing to think more big picture.

GM just discontinued Pontiac to stay afloat http://www.pontiac.com/owners/pontia...ued-statement/

Several other brands are on the auction block (Hummer, Saturn, Opel, & Saab) http://www.montrealgazette.com/Cars/...y.html?tab=VID (3rd paragraph)

I have no doubt GM / Chevrolet & it's key brands will survive this, but they are going to have to loose some limbs to do so, and make smarter decisions knowing that if they dont, they won't survive.

So is it an inconvenience to everyone waiting for their car? Absolutely! But I'm sure there is a good business reason for it.

However... if there is not...

bgrorud · 05-01-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by attymf

I think GM wants all of us to cancel our orders and buy Fiats. If my car is not produced and delivered in 60 days I will cancel the order just out of principle. Seriously, why sell a car that you cannot deliver. I didn't spend 40 grand to get treated like a d-bag.

If your reading this GM please take notice I will buy a Shelby in 60 days!!! (or a Fiat....cao for now)

You're not one of those who was going to cancel if Ambient Lighting didn't go across the dash, are you?

How many people actually cancelled over that?

levi1922 · 05-01-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gameover

Boy, people need to chill out!

yeahh

billyboyf · 05-01-2009, 07:00 PM

I haven't posted much but love to read your ideas. I don't think that GM just builds what they want and ship to whoever. They build based on orders,which are base on allocation. So what is built and shipped is what dealers order. If dealers don't order the pre orders, thats not GM's fault. Think about this: I'm sure Gm and the dealers are hurting for money. If I needed cash I would order a car I knew was sold so I could get my cash quickly. The first promised round of dealer cars are made now. I say relax and see what happens in May.

detroitboy · 05-01-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt'sSS

I absolutely understand everyone's frustration with the wait, but I'd hope everyone would be willing to think more big picture.

GM just discontinued Pontiac to stay afloat http://www.pontiac.com/owners/pontia...ued-statement/

Several other brands are on the auction block (Hummer, Saturn, Opel, & Saab) http://www.montrealgazette.com/Cars/...y.html?tab=VID (3rd paragraph)

I have no doubt GM / Chevrolet & it's key brands will survive this, but they are going to have to loose some limbs to do so, and make smarter decisions knowing that if they dont, they won't survive.

So is it an inconvenience to everyone waiting for their car? Absolutely! But I'm sure there is a good business reason for it.

However... if there is not...

You're missing the point. The point is that they ARE building "x" amount of cars per day. So why are they not building cars they have already sold? It makes no difference to them WHO they build them for...so why not build cars for the customers who have already agreed to pay for them instead of building cars to attract more people to add to the already long list of disgruntled customers who are waiting for them?
Thats just plain common sense from Business 101 "give the customers what they want". And they wonder why GM is in the state they are in? I don't wonder anymore

etrigan · 05-01-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by detroitboy

You're missing the point. The point is that they ARE building "x" amount of cars per day. So why are they not building cars they have already sold? It makes no difference to them WHO they build them for...so why not build cars for the customers who have already agreed to pay for them instead of building cars to attract more people to add to the already long list of disgruntled customers who are waiting for them?
Thats just plain common sense from Business 101 "give the customers what they want". And they wonder why GM is in the state they are in? I don't wonder anymore

Right! Why build a car that might sell when you can build a car that will sell. Get to those maybes next.

They are loosing their "birds in the hands".

etrigan · 05-01-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut

SO.........since we were all told that the pre-order cars would be made between now and the 4th quarter, why the rage 6 weeks after production started?
Cars that show up on lots that you can buy before you get the pre-order are simply cancelled orders.
If you read any other threads, totally believing production codes would be naive.

Bzzzzz! Wrong!

etrigan · 05-01-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut

Did you NOT see all the SS's that have been delivered??? Dealer cars are NOT SS's. My dealer has teh 1st allocation showing up this weekend, the 2nd next week and mine is on the line now. You all knew the dealers were getting a car to show off. Relax.....

40 SSs were delivered to dealers that were not preorders or dealer "one per".

However, these might have been built before March 16th - going by VIN.

RSm1thX · 05-01-2009, 07:21 PM

everybody just "ooosahhhhh"

05-01-2009, 06:19 PM	#47
Arod Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Odessa Tx Posts: 163 View My Garage	i CALLED THE 1800 NUMBER N THREATEN TO GO TO THE MEDIA IF NO WAS GOING TO GIVE ME AN ESTIMATED DATE OF DELIVERY! INSTEAD OF JUST SAING IT WAS IN QUALITY CONTROL FOR 6 WEEKS N COULDNT TELL ME HOW LONG IT WOULD BE THERE. NEEDLESS TO SAY 2 PHONE CALLS THE NEXT DAY THAT MY CAR WAS IN TRANSIT BY RAIL CAR! KINDA FUNNY HUH! __________________ :party0038::

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05-01-2009, 06:05 PM	#45
attymf Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LI, NY Posts: 755 View My Garage	I think GM wants all of us to cancel our orders and buy Fiats. If my car is not produced and delivered in 60 days I will cancel the order just out of principle. Seriously, why sell a car that you cannot deliver. I didn't spend 40 grand to get treated like a d-bag. If your reading this GM please take notice I will buy a Shelby in 60 days!!! (or a Fiat....cao for now)

05-01-2009, 06:19 PM	#46
Gameover Drives: 2010 2SS/RS ABM Camaro Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 503 View My Garage	Boy, people need to chill out!

05-01-2009, 06:39 PM	#48
Matt'sSS From 2 door to 5 door Drives: C5 Vert->CGM SS RS M6->SRT8 Magnum Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 600 View My Garage	I absolutely understand everyone's frustration with the wait, but I'd hope everyone would be willing to think more big picture. GM just discontinued Pontiac to stay afloat http://www.pontiac.com/owners/pontia...ued-statement/ Several other brands are on the auction block (Hummer, Saturn, Opel, & Saab) http://www.montrealgazette.com/Cars/...y.html?tab=VID (3rd paragraph) I have no doubt GM / Chevrolet & it's key brands will survive this, but they are going to have to loose some limbs to do so, and make smarter decisions knowing that if they dont, they won't survive. So is it an inconvenience to everyone waiting for their car? Absolutely! But I'm sure there is a good business reason for it. However... if there is not...

05-01-2009, 07:00 PM	#51
billyboyf Drives: 2011 2LT RS Convertible Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 33	I haven't posted much but love to read your ideas. I don't think that GM just builds what they want and ship to whoever. They build based on orders,which are base on allocation. So what is built and shipped is what dealers order. If dealers don't order the pre orders, thats not GM's fault. Think about this: I'm sure Gm and the dealers are hurting for money. If I needed cash I would order a car I knew was sold so I could get my cash quickly. The first promised round of dealer cars are made now. I say relax and see what happens in May.

05-01-2009, 07:21 PM	#56
RSm1thX Drives: 2005 Acura RSX Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 63	everybody just "ooosahhhhh"