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2010ssraper · 07-12-2010, 10:46 PM

I want to see some dyno charts of a LS9 camaro vs a maggie 2300 camaro. Or if someone has the charts overlaid together would also be great

just want to compare

2010ssraper · 07-12-2010, 10:52 PM

also could they both be within the range of 600rwhp

old motorhead · 07-13-2010, 05:53 AM

I just don't think that there's a huge population of LS9 Camaros out there. I've heard of a couple that were put together. It takes big dollars to do the swap. You can forge an LS3 for a hell of a lot less and come out with more.

I think you'd have to be very lucky to find one at 600rwhp anyway. A lightly modded ZR1 vette could lend you a dyno chart. No shortage of 600rwhp Camaros on this site for comparison.

*DGthe3* · 07-13-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

I just don't think that there's a huge population of LS9 Camaros out there. I've heard of a couple that were put together. It takes big dollars to do the swap. You can forge an LS3 for a hell of a lot less and come out with more.

I think you'd have to be very lucky to find one at 600rwhp anyway. A lightly modded ZR1 vette could lend you a dyno chart. No shortage of 600rwhp Camaros on this site for comparison.

And of the LS9 Camaros, I think all of them have been modified to produce even more power.

2010ssraper · 07-13-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

And of the LS9 Camaros, I think all of them have been modified to produce even more power.

well i just would want to see dyno's of both to at least get a comparison of the hp and tq curves

*DGthe3* · 07-13-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010ssraper

well i just would want to see dyno's of both to at least get a comparison of the hp and tq curves

but once its modified, the curve changes.

Crowley · 07-13-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010ssraper

well i just would want to see dyno's of both to at least get a comparison of the hp and tq curves

I think the best you might see is a stock ZR1 dyno somewhere and then try to do at least curve comparisons to a pretty much stock 2010 Camaro w/ a tvs2300 installed ... .. I'm not sure what the stock LS9 puts out as far as boosts goes, but if boost is the same, I'm thinking the LS3 w/ a tvs2300 would make a little more power since it has a higher compression ratio ..

Crowley

*DGthe3* · 07-13-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

I think the best you might see is a stock ZR1 dyno somewhere and then try to do at least curve comparisons to a pretty much stock 2010 Camaro w/ a tvs2300 installed ... .. I'm not sure what the stock LS9 puts out as far as boosts goes, but if boost is the same, I'm thinking the LS3 w/ a tvs2300 would make a little more power since it has a higher compression ratio ..

Crowley

Or, compare an LS3 Corvette with a supercharger to the ZR1.

*radz28* · 07-13-2010, 02:35 PM

OEM boost on LS9 is 10.5 psi I believe.

Sales@Hennessey · 07-13-2010, 06:18 PM

Hennessey Performance started placing the LS9 engine in the 2010 Camaro in January 2009. Stock LS9 Engine produces 638bhp and the version we install produces 725bhp. In April 2010, our vehicle was tested by Road & Track Magazine. Full details are available below with the following links:

PDF Data of full Vehicle Results from Testing

PDF Comparison of Hennessey HPE700 vs Chevrolet ZR1 vs Stock Camaro

Video of HPE700 Camaro being tested by Road & Track Magazine

Full Article as found in April 2010 Issue of Road & Track

This information should assist you in your research. The LS9 Powered Camaro by Hennessey Performance is currently for sale as 2011 Models, Limited to 24 units. Call 979-885-1300 or email sales@hennesseyperformance.com for all inquires on purchasing one of these vehicles.

Speak to you soon,
James

2010 SSRS · 07-13-2010, 07:20 PM

I want one of each

Graham Behan · 07-13-2010, 07:47 PM

All,
Hopefully attached is a comparisson between a Magnuson TVS 2300 and a LS9 TVS 2300. Sorry for the poor quality, but you should be able to see that on the same engine, exhaust and intake also at the same supercharger speed the graphs show next to no difference, which is not suprising since they share the same supercharger rotating assembly (Eaton TVS 2300). Essentially there is no significant performance difference between the two units under the same operating conditions, however the LS9 engine has a significantly better rotating assembly (Crank,Rods and Pistons) than the LS3 and worse cylinder head flow for the $22,000 it costs, but it can take significantly more spark due to its port design and reduced CR..

Best Regards

Graham

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Graham Behan Drives: Various Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Decatur IN Posts: 272	mag Vs ls9 All, Hopefully attached is a comparisson between a Magnuson TVS 2300 and a LS9 TVS 2300. Sorry for the poor quality, but you should be able to see that on the same engine, exhaust and intake also at the same supercharger speed the graphs show next to no difference, which is not suprising since they share the same supercharger rotating assembly (Eaton TVS 2300). Essentially there is no significant performance difference between the two units under the same operating conditions, however the LS9 engine has a significantly better rotating assembly (Crank,Rods and Pistons) than the LS3 and worse cylinder head flow for the $22,000 it costs, but it can take significantly more spark due to its port design and reduced CR.. Best Regards Graham Attached Images Last edited by Graham Behan; 07-14-2010 at 08:32 AM.

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07-13-2010, 05:53 AM	#3
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	I just don't think that there's a huge population of LS9 Camaros out there. I've heard of a couple that were put together. It takes big dollars to do the swap. You can forge an LS3 for a hell of a lot less and come out with more. I think you'd have to be very lucky to find one at 600rwhp anyway. A lightly modded ZR1 vette could lend you a dyno chart. No shortage of 600rwhp Camaros on this site for comparison.

07-13-2010, 06:18 PM	#10
Sales@Hennessey Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 599	Hennessey Performance started placing the LS9 engine in the 2010 Camaro in January 2009. Stock LS9 Engine produces 638bhp and the version we install produces 725bhp. In April 2010, our vehicle was tested by Road & Track Magazine. Full details are available below with the following links: PDF Data of full Vehicle Results from Testing PDF Comparison of Hennessey HPE700 vs Chevrolet ZR1 vs Stock Camaro Video of HPE700 Camaro being tested by Road & Track Magazine Full Article as found in April 2010 Issue of Road & Track This information should assist you in your research. The LS9 Powered Camaro by Hennessey Performance is currently for sale as 2011 Models, Limited to 24 units. Call 979-885-1300 or email sales@hennesseyperformance.com for all inquires on purchasing one of these vehicles. Speak to you soon, James