Disgusting policy on Gm's part or whoever created this.

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

Thought you guys might enjoy this story.

So roughly a year ago I was about to head down to Seattle to grab my brand new 2012 which was on the lot - Black on black Camaro. After contacting the dealer, sorting out a price, and negotiating everything I was ready to leave.

Huge excitement on my part, I was counting down the days like a 10 year old on Christmas. Day of the transaction I get in contact with the dealership to let them know that I will be there in roughly 6 hours as I am driving over from Canada.

Dealer goes silent, tells me sorry deals off. I ask why. He tells me "we are not allowed to sell cars to Canadians". I ask him why? He tells me its a agreement GM has with the Canadian version of the company.

This is absolute discriminatory garbage...to this day, they still will not sell a brand new car off of their lot to Canadians. YET the opposite is possible here.

I find this to be highly offensive, it almost made me turn away from GM forever. Luckily the Camaro did the persuasion and I still bought one in private avoiding all dealerships.

I still cannot believe they would do such a thing...

I mean it sounds like the Canadian side made it so you can't buy them here...not us. Sounds like the dealership is just following the policy someone in Canada set up. I could be wrong . Either way though...yeah that bs

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

But why is it then that when the dollar is in favor of America such as currently. Americans are allowed to come here and buy up all of the Canadian cars and take them home.

This seems like a one way policy. I would agree with it if it where 2 way. But this is 100% targeted at charging Canadians more.

Its not just Canadians. To the best of my knowledge, an individual cannot buy a new American car with the intent of exporting it -regardless of the brand or your nationality. It just so happens that it most commonly occurs with Canadians right now because the dollar is near parity and it doesn't cost much to get a car accross the border. Sending a car to Europe or Asia is a slightly harder task. Plus, we don't hear about their news stories regarding car importation -just as (I assume) they don't hear of ours.

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

That is not what the news here showed. Showed Canadian cars being bought up and taken south.

Yes I know it is most manufacturers. Funny though, if you search enough you WILL find a dealership that wants your money.

If you look hard enough, you can find a guy that will sell you a fresh human kidney ... doesn't make it a legit deal though.

[camarozzzz]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its not just Canadians. To the best of my knowledge, an individual cannot buy a new American car with the intent of exporting it -regardless of the brand or your nationality. It just so happens that it most commonly occurs with Canadians right now because the dollar is near parity and it doesn't cost much to get a car accross the border. Sending a car to Europe or Asia is a slightly harder task. Plus, we don't hear about their news stories regarding car importation -just as (I assume) they don't hear of ours.


If you look hard enough, you can find a guy that will sell you a fresh human kidney ... doesn't make it a legit deal though.

Your comparison is grossly exaggerated. You are comparing the disturbing act of harvesting and selling of human internals to that of buying a car cross country and bringing it home...

So you are saying that this is a fair policy? Would you still say this if the shoe was on the other foot?

I implore you to go to Google right now and compare Canadian prices to those of American prices on cars. Tell me if that is fair to you? Or simply price gauging. The average difference in prices is roughly 20-30% sometimes.

I could pick up an LS in the states for 19 k easy - brand new, while here I would be lucky ti get 26k.

It is easy to say something is more than fair when you are not the one being affected negatively or if something does not affect you in any manner.

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

Your comparison is grossly exaggerated. You are comparing the disturbing act of harvesting and selling of human internals to that of buying a car cross country and bringing it home...

So you are saying that this is a fair policy? Would you still say this if the shoe was on the other foot?

I implore you to go to Google right now and compare Canadian prices to those of American prices on cars. Tell me if that is fair to you? Or simply price gauging. The average difference in prices is roughly 20-30% sometimes.

I could pick up an LS in the states for 19 k easy - brand new, while here I would be lucky ti get 26k.

It is easy to say something is more than fair when you are not the one being affected negatively or if something does not affect you in any manner.

He didn't say it was fair, he just said that it is.

Personally I think the idea of a warranty ending before 10 years is unfair. If you're going to spend 20k+ on a car, then I think that the manufacturer damn well be sure that it will last 10 years. Of course, bumper-to-bumper is only 3 years.

Again, not fair, but nothing we can do about it unfortunately.

[ChriSS84]

Buy one in Canada. What's the big deal? Oh you weren't able to come to America and buy it cheaper and then take it home. Get over it and stop crying.

[ihaveacamaro]

Originally Posted by ChriSS84

Buy one in Canada. What's the big deal? Oh you weren't able to come to America and buy it cheaper and then take it home. Get over it and stop crying.

5K seems like a big deal to me... I would be just as pissed as the OP.

I'm sure if you bought the same car your neighbor has for 5K more, you'd be pissed too.

It's easy to say what's the big deal, when you're not the one paying more...

[Johnny Kanuk]

I just bought a 2012 1LT/RS M6 about a month ago, wanted the 2LT but just couldn't swing it. Anyways, a friend that works for the American division of my company bought a 2012 2LT/RS 45th A6, we compared prices. He paid for his what I paid for mine. He was shocked and couldn't beleive it. Then I had to break it to him I had to pay 13% tax on top of that. All I can say is welcome to Canada, please check you wallet at the door.

[camarozzzz]

Originally Posted by ChriSS84

Buy one in Canada. What's the big deal? Oh you weren't able to come to America and buy it cheaper and then take it home. Get over it and stop crying.

Wow. This is such a rudely ignorant, blatantly arrogant response. What's the big deal? I would say the big deal is paying roughly $5000-$6000 more for the same product simply because corporations know that they can gauge certain population cohorts. It is sad to see that people still think this way. Such a selfish attitude. I advise you to go learn some empathy for others.

This whole attitude of if it does not affect or hurt me then who cares is fairly elementary/ grade school. This is exactly why corporations are able to gauge and cheat because people say who cares did not affect this time.

I doubt you would enjoy paying more for your car while I paid $6000 less. I am sire you would make a bit of noise as well.

[Matster]

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

5K seems like a big deal to me... I would be just as pissed as the OP.

I'm sure if you bought the same car your neighbor has for 5K more, you'd be pissed too.

It's easy to say what's the big deal, when you're not the one paying more...

Check out the price difference on the Corvette between Canada and the US, the difference there is just offensive, the price of another car.

[kylenewman]

Canadians always pay higher prices it will always remain that way. That's the cost of having a Canadian style government higher taxes, fees and higher prices. It'll be happening soon enough here to..

[SSE 4 2SS]

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

Your comparison is grossly exaggerated. You are comparing the disturbing act of harvesting and selling of human internals to that of buying a car cross country and bringing it home...

So you are saying that this is a fair policy? Would you still say this if the shoe was on the other foot?

I implore you to go to Google right now and compare Canadian prices to those of American prices on cars. Tell me if that is fair to you? Or simply price gauging. The average difference in prices is roughly 20-30% sometimes.

I could pick up an LS in the states for 19 k easy - brand new, while here I would be lucky ti get 26k.

It is easy to say something is more than fair when you are not the one being affected negatively or if something does not affect you in any manner.

Please note the listed location of residence for the person you replied to here...

Moderator.ca...
Niagara Canada... The shoe is on his foot...

And the reference to the purchase and sale of human organs was merely a descriptor of your comment about breaking the rules... Given time and desire, anyone can find someone to do whatever... but that doesn't make it right...

Personally, I would be upset about it, but the rule is there for some reason... I seriously doubt it was to GOUGE Canadian consumers. There are trade agreements that are negotiated and signed by both and/or all countries involved... I would imagine that's where you need to research...

We have some of the same issues when it comes to buying a car out of state... I don't pay taxes there, but I dang sure have to when I get it back home if I desire to drive it...

Since it seems to be industry wide and not GM specific, I'm willing to bet it is something way beyond GM's control... but you appear mad at them as they were the messenger...

Enjoy the Camaro...

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by camarozzzz

This is basically what my research found, as well the emails I exchanged with the dealership revealed. Its bullshit because in Canada dealerships will sell to Americans when the dollar is in America's favor...meaning it is a hypocritical law and obviously with everything you have said it makes sense but not when its a one way policy...clearly it is in favor of someone. There was a situation a few years back here when hundreds upon hundreds of Canadian vehicles were bought and shipped to America by dealerships because the dollar hit really high. Yet no policies were brought in...

the dollar hasn't been in America's favor for over 10 years now.

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by jmontalvo

. Wtf is wrong with companies nowadays?!

fear of trial lawyers.

[StangKiller-SS]

Is there no GM dealer anywhere near you in Canada? If they just didn't have the right car you wanted then you should have just placed an order.