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Old 08-31-2010, 11:34 AM   #15
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Every dollar spent ends back up in the US, no matter which country it goes to. It is all eventually re-invested in the US, as it ultimately has no value anywhere else otherwise.

I doubt it and I bet the economic benefit for every car sold that was produced in canada is probably larger than a car built in Japan and probably even a mazda thats built in the US. Japan only builds a a few plants in the US to get around taxes and show the american people look these are made in the states.. I got your point on a global economy, but a nissan in japan has no benefit to us. My friends dad trucks up to oshawa every week to deliver goods, I dont see any truck drivers going to japan.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:36 AM   #16
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I'm happy it's built in Canada! thank you for buying the Camaro and supporting Canadian jobs as well!

very good post OP. Would be interesting to see what other companies of the world do to support their home economy. i.e. Italians per Ferarri, or Germans per Mercedes/Porsche/VW
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:36 AM   #17
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I think you missed my point:
"There is more to this story than where a car is assembled. It's about the US jobs that are created and maintained to produced a car regardless of where the final assembly takes place. It's about (US made) parts and components; the research, design, engineering, manufacturing and assembly of vehicle content (parts and components)".

I am talking Tier One and Tier Two auto suppliers. They employ hundreds of thousands in the US in good paying jobs.
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No sir, I got your point... I was just adding a comment about the *additional* jobs created in Canada... I was obviously ignorant to the fact that Canada also handed bundles of money over to GM....

ViperTomcat was kind enough to school me on this...
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:39 AM   #18
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The only thing I don't understand is why the guy bought a $33,000(and up) Hyundai Genisis if he was having hard times.

Why not an Impala or Malibu? They cost less too!



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Old 08-31-2010, 11:40 AM   #19
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:43 AM   #20
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Every dollar spent ends back up in the US, no matter which country it goes to. It is all eventually re-invested in the US, as it ultimately has no value anywhere else otherwise.
hmmm.. I'm not sure this is an entirely accurate statement, but I think the underlying point is good. Money does no good in a big stagnent pile. You have to spend/invest it elsewhere to keep the economy flowing working. It's the oil in the engine per say.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:44 AM   #21
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When GM ceased production of the 4th Gen they promised the Canadian workers that they would not build a future Camaro in the US. I believe this has some bearing on why Oshawa was chosen and not somewhere in the US. I like my Canadian Camaro!

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Old 08-31-2010, 11:45 AM   #22
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The only thing I don't understand is why the guy bought a $33,000(and up) Hyundai Genisis if he was having hard times.

Why not an Impala or Malibu? They cost less too!





The japanese automakers are clever and deserve multiple accolades. They fed off the whole we make better MPG cars and they are way cheaper for years. They took advantage of piss poor vehicles made here from proabably late 70's to early ninetys, when at that point American cars started coming back. But now foreign cars are actually costing more than american cars and arent any better quality. But Japan sucked in a lot of owner loyal over those two decades they are still profiting off of that. I would say really since 2002-2004 American cars have been superior and really most american made cars either get the same MPG or even better.


Another observation is this. Look at the two countries that we probably do the most business with Japan and China. These are the countries that we have built up to be our spitting image, allowing un-fair trade to go on for years, borrowing extensively from, and really not getting anything in return. So we become more poor and people no longer have jobs because we have no manufacturing base, china and japan are on our heels to dominate the global market. Sad thing is we have let a lot of this happen to ourselves. It's sad really when you think about it besides food and even that is tricky, there is nothing you buy thats made in the states anymore NOTHING.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:46 AM   #23
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Just an (un-researched) opinion - I am thinking it is more of a financial decision, where it may be lower cost per unit to build them in Oshawa than anywhere else.
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Bloated pensions & benefits are killing the US auto makers, US government, & local/state govts.

Too larger a percentage of $$'s of each car sold goes to people no longer working for GM/Ford/Chrysler than compared to imports.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:51 AM   #25
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Bloated pensions & benefits are killing the US auto makers, US government, & local/state govts.

Too larger a percentage of $$'s of each car sold goes to people no longer working for GM/Ford/Chrysler than compared to imports.

True and Japan has a national health care service and is a loose socialism. When they retire the GOVT takes care of them. Our GOVT doesnt do that here so somebody has to
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Great info, Alfie! Thanks...
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:51 AM   #27
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every car sold and driven in the US, is serviced and maintained in the US by
US citizens. The folks who sold you the cars are most likely US citizens paying taxes like most of us. Like it or not, we all live in a global economy, try buying a TV or a toaster made strictly in the US......

good post OP.....
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Interesting reading, one reporters take on why it is built where it is. Cliff notes = it's a union thing.

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