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GretchenGotGrowl · 10-15-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IPSjeff

If it makes sense financially and there is a market it for we can produce a kit for sure. Just need to run some numbers and see where it ends up. Thus far, it looks do-able in a $5-6k budget in a twin kit. It may end up being less but this is just taking the same components as the V8 Kit and swapping out the turbos for smaller / cheaper units. I would never put my "IPS" name on anything Ebay or Chinese-made so rest assured the turbos will be rock-solid

Jeff

PS -- I haven't done any research on the factory fuel pump or injector sizing yet on the V6 cars -- anybody want to save me some time?

I'm working on a custom mid-mount solution right now. I've done a little research and the fuel system is going to be a problem. I looks like you are going to be limited to between 500-550 HP crank until someone comes out with a after-market fuel pump. Trifecta is working on getting a little bit more out of the system, but we are hitting the limits here. A nice set of 2400 psi injectors and larger fuel pumps would be nice -- wanna volunteer?

Another thing to consider is the tranny. It is rated at about 340 ft-lbs tq for a 5000 lbs vehicle. It gives me a little concern. You aren't responsible for that, but if you do a kit you may want to warn your customers about it. I'm not trying to warn you off -- we do need more options -- but not many companies have jumped in with more than the normal bolt-on mods. When going FI you normally already have options like exhaust manifolds (why I'm going the mid-mount route), forged pistons, tranny, diff. and axle mods to handle the extra power. I'm going to go with a good intercooler AND water-meth injection to be extra careful withthe cast pistons, but will just have to wait for all the extras to go to the next step.

I'm going to start a thread in the journal section. Maybe what I learn can help you out. With the STS and your option maybe some other vendors will hop on board and build the supporting stuff.

Good luck to you, we are all glad you are undertaking this venture!

SIXJAK · 10-15-2010, 03:42 PM

I have 5 possibly 6 V6's that may be ready for this upgrade (and I can't leave the lone SS out either LOL) Am interested in STS's setup but would like to wait for a few other options before I commit 35-40k or more to this project. It has to be solid. I'm in MO and the cars will be more available for possible R&D after Dec 11. The cars are seen by thousands each week and are regularly at car shows. Soooo there you go.

JustFresh · 10-15-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

I have 5 possibly 6 V6's that may be ready for this upgrade (and I can't leave the lone SS out either LOL) Am interested in STS's setup but would like to wait for a few other options before I commit 35-40k or more to this project. It has to be solid. I'm in MO and the cars will be more available for possible R&D after Dec 11. The cars are seen by thousands each week and are regularly at car shows. Soooo there you go.

Can i have one?

christianmotox · 10-15-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JustFresh

Can i have one?

Please??

RickRay · 10-15-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by devildoc

The only company that you will find to tune the V6 would be Trifecta (as of right now), same company doing the STS kit.

I talked to a Speed shop and ANYCAR can be tuned. These handheld tuners are not that good.....When you tune a car you tune every gear and every RPM range you want...its a long process if you do it right. This is what I was told so I'm just going with what he told me and he showed me some of his cars that made to Magazines..etc. So what I'm trying to say is that you guys are saying there is only one company that has a tune...

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-15-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RickRay

I talked to a Speed shop and ANYTHING can be tuned. These handheld tuners are not that good.....When you tune a car you tune every gear and every RPM range you want...its a long process if you do it right. This is what I was told so I'm just going with what he told me and he showed me some of his cars that made to Magazines..etc. So what I'm trying to say is that you guys are saying there is only one company that has a tune...

Did you specifically tell him it was the LLT engine on the 2010-2011 Camaro? If there is someone besides Trifecta (and their resellers) doing the tune it would be the first I've heard of it.

scrming · 10-15-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickRay

I talked to a Speed shop and ANYTHING can be tuned. These handheld tuners are not that good.....When you tune a car you tune every gear and every RPM range you want...its a long process if you do it right. This is what I was told so I'm just going with what he told me and he showed me some of his cars that made to Magazines..etc. So what I'm trying to say is that you guys are saying there is only one company that has a tune...

As Growl, pointed out there is CURRENTLY only one company offering tunes for the 2010+ V6 Camaro... The Camaro uses a very different computer (ECU) than the ones your speed shop is used to seeing...

Now as far as handheld tuners, like SCT and Diablo... yes, a "canned" tune is only so good.. so yes, for an optimal tune you want a custom dyno tune or at least a data log based tune (which is what Trifecta does).

RickRay · 10-15-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scrming

As Growl, pointed out there is CURRENTLY only one company offering tunes for the 2010+ V6 Camaro... The Camaro uses a very different computer (ECU) than the ones your speed shop is used to seeing...

Now as far as handheld tuners, like SCT and Diablo... yes, a "canned" tune is only so good.. so yes, for an optimal tune you want a custom dyno tune or at least a data log based tune (which is what Trifecta does).

Thanks....I'll mention that to him....

TJ91 · 10-15-2010, 11:46 PM

Price sounds extremely fair. Kudos to the IPS, i really hope you guys can come through with a great kit that is great for us as well as you!

Iomcamaro · 10-15-2010, 11:50 PM

I live right across the border from Cincinnati, so if you need a test car that you would be able to give a kit to for reviews I'd be in

Dyk-NO · 10-16-2010, 01:45 AM

What's the difference between the other TT kits out there?

rhd · 10-16-2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyk-NO

What's the difference between the other TT kits out there?

there isnt any tt kits, as far as i know there are 3 or 4 people trying to build a custom kit(myself included) as far as the tune goes i will be using a haltech stand alone to fix that problem

Darth Camaro · 10-16-2010, 04:50 AM

Come on majior MOD's...

scrming · 10-16-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rhd

there isnt any tt kits, as far as i know there are 3 or 4 people trying to build a custom kit(myself included) as far as the tune goes i will be using a haltech stand alone to fix that problem

wow.. a stand alone ECU?

10-15-2010, 03:42 PM	#16
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	I have 5 possibly 6 V6's that may be ready for this upgrade (and I can't leave the lone SS out either LOL) Am interested in STS's setup but would like to wait for a few other options before I commit 35-40k or more to this project. It has to be solid. I'm in MO and the cars will be more available for possible R&D after Dec 11. The cars are seen by thousands each week and are regularly at car shows. Soooo there you go. __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.

10-15-2010, 11:46 PM	#23
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	Price sounds extremely fair. Kudos to the IPS, i really hope you guys can come through with a great kit that is great for us as well as you! __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

10-16-2010, 01:45 AM	#25
Dyk-NO Trust me I'm a Scientist. Drives: My wifey ;P Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,118 View My Garage	What's the difference between the other TT kits out there? __________________ "From ZERO to a Tire-Burning HERO!" Mods: RotoFab CAI, SW Headers, HiFlo Cats, Borla Atak Catback, Nightfury Cam, Ported Heads,Intake,TB, melling pump, Morosso Oil Separator.

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