Heads/Cam cost estimate? - Page 2

PRAY · 02-07-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HorsePowerAddicts

at HPA we do not double charge for services here either, A lot of parts and things have to come off, so swapping to upgraded parts (IM,TB, Balancer, Etc is not a install up charge, just parts only Charge/Price)

Our heads and cam packages are right around 5K including tuning

Now that's what I am talking about. That is awesome and good on you guys. A large well known shop doing right by its customers.

Drsagacity · 02-10-2018, 09:14 PM

Lingenfelter charges $10k for the head and cam setup for 600hp/500tq. You make a compelling argument for H&C at the prices you are discussing.

Lingenfelter charges $11k for the supercharger setup 630hp/600tq...so the H/c does seem marginally cheaper.

I guess, in my mind, the advantage of the SC is at the entry level, say 550rwhp (a8), the car will drive lock stock unless you get into boost and you don’t need to open the engine. With the head cam, you need to get pretty aggressive to get to the same level. However, the h/c will sound bad ass...maybe the difference comes down to what you are looking for in terms of the manners of the car as both will be pretty awesome.

oldman · 02-10-2018, 09:23 PM

I would always go H/C vs supercharger, always, to my mind the supercharger adds weight, heat and complexity which hurts my weekend autoXer and daily driver. The reason I went with FI now is that on a M6 there are no gears and 1st gear is a long pull. If gearing was an option or shake and back storker, I am 100% sure I would stay NA. If I had an auto there is no doubt in my mind H/C and converter is the 99% solution for all your Mustang problems...

PRAY · 02-11-2018, 07:39 AM

Starting from scratch stock with an A8 I can get you mid to bottom 10's for around 11K.

That includes the following:

Ported Heads
Cam Kit
Ported MSD
RF CAI
Headers
FF Kit
Converter
Drag Pack
Installed and tuned

What is included in the other offerings for the same price either N/A or F/I?

DFW1LE · 02-11-2018, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRAY

Starting from scratch stock with an A8 I can get you mid to bottom 10's for around 11K.

That includes the following:

Ported Heads
Cam Kit
Ported MSD
RF CAI
Headers
FF Kit
Converter
Drag Pack
Installed and tuned

What is included in the other offerings for the same price either N/A or F/I?

You cannot do better than this, plus given all the R&D done by Brett, you are getting a proven package that will perform.

EddieM92 · 02-20-2018, 10:25 PM

Thanks for the input guys much appreciated

LARMEDIC · 02-20-2018, 10:47 PM

N/A is my preference, I had a S/C GS that made 880 rwhp on the Ricky Bobby tune and backed it down to 700 rwhp on the street, it was about all it could take on 345 DRs. My friend had a N/A 09’ Z06 that was 650-680 , he ran about the same ET but about 3-4 mph faster at the track and he was on 17” DRs!! I was on a 15” x275s. Both M6’s. His car was an absolute monster. On my street tune he would pretty much drive around me lol no comparison N/A is where it at unless you’re making a solid 100 more rwhp with boost.
This was his car on pump e85 and stock rod bolts, he went to c85 , new rod bolt and hit 680s, wish he would have kept it, the sound is intoxicating. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxk2m0uXe9I

oldman · 02-21-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LARMEDIC

N/A is my preference, I had a S/C GS that made 880 rwhp on the Ricky Bobby tune and backed it down to 700 rwhp on the street, it was about all it could take on 345 DRs. My friend had a N/A 09’ Z06 that was 650-680 , he ran about the same ET but about 3-4 mph faster at the track and he was on 17” DRs!! I was on a 15” x275s. Both M6’s. His car was an absolute monster. On my street tune he would pretty much drive around me lol no comparison N/A is where it at unless you’re making a solid 100 more rwhp with boost.
This was his car on pump e85 and stock rod bolts, he went to c85 , new rod bolt and hit 680s, wish he would have kept it, the sound is intoxicating. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxk2m0uXe9I

Holly Mother of some diety...

LARMEDIC · 02-21-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Holly Mother of some diety...

Exactly haha it was 13.8:1 compression.

Redlinez · 02-21-2018, 01:01 PM

How it makes power is what so many totally forget. Peak dyno numbers sell a lot of jobs and parts, that's for sure! I miss my heads cam LS days, but the raw fuel smell and surging did get old. One other advantage to superchargers is potential growth for power and the going back to stock option.

02-10-2018, 09:23 PM	#17
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	I would always go H/C vs supercharger, always, to my mind the supercharger adds weight, heat and complexity which hurts my weekend autoXer and daily driver. The reason I went with FI now is that on a M6 there are no gears and 1st gear is a long pull. If gearing was an option or shake and back storker, I am 100% sure I would stay NA. If I had an auto there is no doubt in my mind H/C and converter is the 99% solution for all your Mustang problems... __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires. Last edited by oldman; 02-10-2018 at 09:37 PM.

02-11-2018, 07:39 AM	#18
PRAY Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sanford NC Posts: 2,766	Starting from scratch stock with an A8 I can get you mid to bottom 10's for around 11K. That includes the following: Ported Heads Cam Kit Ported MSD RF CAI Headers FF Kit Converter Drag Pack Installed and tuned What is included in the other offerings for the same price either N/A or F/I? __________________ 2016 2SS. H/C SBE 1.37 60ft, 6.36@109.49, 9.97@136+. Nuff Said.

02-20-2018, 10:25 PM	#20
EddieM92 Instagram- _2sslow_ Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 198	Thanks for the input guys much appreciated __________________ Instagram- _2sslow_ 2011 Camaro LT RS (Sold) 2011 Range Rover Sport HSE (Sold) 2016 Camaro 2SS NPP, TSP headers & Xpipe, Skid e85, CAI Intake, MSD IM, 95m TB, BigPowerRacing Tune, H&R Lowering springs, BMR sway bars

02-20-2018, 10:47 PM	#21
LARMEDIC Drives: 17' 1ss Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Shreveport Posts: 69	N/A is my preference, I had a S/C GS that made 880 rwhp on the Ricky Bobby tune and backed it down to 700 rwhp on the street, it was about all it could take on 345 DRs. My friend had a N/A 09’ Z06 that was 650-680 , he ran about the same ET but about 3-4 mph faster at the track and he was on 17” DRs!! I was on a 15” x275s. Both M6’s. His car was an absolute monster. On my street tune he would pretty much drive around me lol no comparison N/A is where it at unless you’re making a solid 100 more rwhp with boost. This was his car on pump e85 and stock rod bolts, he went to c85 , new rod bolt and hit 680s, wish he would have kept it, the sound is intoxicating. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxk2m0uXe9I __________________ 87' IROC A4 what a car to have at 15 sold 93' Z/28 FBO M6 sold 00' SS H/C/I , 4k yank stall, 100hp TNT N20 sold 10'SS H/C/I M6 sold 12' C6 GS M6 H/C/I , A&A TI Trim ,15" Billet Specialties, 880 RWHP with 109 & meth. 9.70s @ 146 sold. 17' A8 1SS NGM stock for now Last edited by LARMEDIC; 02-20-2018 at 10:57 PM.

02-21-2018, 01:01 PM	#24
Redlinez Shifts under load Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Posts: 1,295	How it makes power is what so many totally forget. Peak dyno numbers sell a lot of jobs and parts, that's for sure! I miss my heads cam LS days, but the raw fuel smell and surging did get old. One other advantage to superchargers is potential growth for power and the going back to stock option. __________________ 24 Audi S3 prem plus, sport package HPDE - southeast - JTI- solo, PCA- blue. 22 Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT blue

02-10-2018, 09:14 PM	#16
Drsagacity Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Nightfall Gray vert Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Swansea, IL Posts: 1,219	Lingenfelter charges $10k for the head and cam setup for 600hp/500tq. You make a compelling argument for H&C at the prices you are discussing. Lingenfelter charges $11k for the supercharger setup 630hp/600tq...so the H/c does seem marginally cheaper. I guess, in my mind, the advantage of the SC is at the entry level, say 550rwhp (a8), the car will drive lock stock unless you get into boost and you don’t need to open the engine. With the head cam, you need to get pretty aggressive to get to the same level. However, the h/c will sound bad ass...maybe the difference comes down to what you are looking for in terms of the manners of the car as both will be pretty awesome.

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