Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-12-2013, 11:27 PM   #1
intensifi

 
Drives: '12 2LT Convertible
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Belmont, California
Posts: 1,701
DIY LFX Intake Manifold / Valve Cleaning

I didn't have a catch can on until 14K miles.

I had an upper induction cleaning done at the dealer to remove the initial oil and carbon buildup. That significantly helped smooth out the idle and improve my mileage.

However I felt more could be done to clean out the oil and carbon buildup in the intake manifold air pathways and on the valves themselves.

This DIY is the result of performing the GM documented procedure to remove and reinstall the intake manifold. In addition to the manifold remove/reinstall procedure I added instructions based on research and the suggestions of knowledgable camaro5 members/vendors to safely clean the valves.

After completing this procedure, my car runs very smoothly. My mileage has also increased (0.7 MPG - stop and go city driving).

After directly seeing what builds up without a catch can, I am a catch can believer.

I also now believe that if you do not have a clean intake manifold, associated air pathways and valves you WILL NOT obtain the full benefit of cold air intakes or ported throttle bodies.

Please feel free to critique or add suggestions that have worked for you. I welcome your input.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf LFX Air Intake Removal:Cleaning:Reinstallation.pdf (931.2 KB, 8354 views)
__________________
Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top
intensifi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 05:49 AM   #2
911medic

 
911medic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Near Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,578
Jeff, this is a fantastic DIY! Anyone with a basic set of tools and an afternoon can save themselves a bunch of money and get their intakes clean themselves by using this guide. I plan to use it as soon as I get a catch can.

LFX owners, you should be downloading a copy of this ASAP! Especially if you don't run a catch can. Dealers charge ~$200 for a chemical intake cleaning, and I've seen ~$800+ quoted for actual physical cleaning (ie, walnut shell blasting). If you're comfortable working on your own car, this is pretty simple to do yourself.
__________________
All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread
Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller
RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting
Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting
911medic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 10:19 AM   #3
Elite Engineering


 
Elite Engineering's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,381
Quote:
Originally Posted by 911medic View Post
Jeff, this is a fantastic DIY! Anyone with a basic set of tools and an afternoon can save themselves a bunch of money and get their intakes clean themselves by using this guide. I plan to use it as soon as I get a catch can.

LFX owners, you should be downloading a copy of this ASAP! Especially if you don't run a catch can. Dealers charge ~$200 for a chemical intake cleaning, and I've seen ~$800+ quoted for actual physical cleaning (ie, walnut shell blasting). If you're comfortable working on your own car, this is pretty simple to do yourself.
Yes, very well written and nicely done.
Elite Engineering is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2013, 12:38 PM   #4
intensifi

 
Drives: '12 2LT Convertible
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Belmont, California
Posts: 1,701
thanks!
__________________
Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top
intensifi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 09:04 AM   #5
911medic

 
911medic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Near Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,578
Now added to the DIY sticky: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60650
__________________
All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread
Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller
RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting
Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting
911medic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2013, 06:28 PM   #6
batman53201
Account not blocked
 
batman53201's Avatar
 
Drives: The Batmobile
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 2,158
nice instructions. im convinced that the first upgrade for me will be a catch can and CAI.

you should of done the same for installing the catch can.
batman53201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 04:48 PM   #7
redleader
redleader
 
Drives: 2010
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 2,201
Is the link now missing ?
redleader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2013, 06:06 PM   #8
SC2150
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 6,063
Very good info. Just make sure the upper induction cleaning is not done very often as the deris knocked loose some particles get pushed down between the pistons and cylinder walls causing scouring. Get a good catchcan on and then do it and your good to go. And ONLY one of the few brands that actually catch almost all the oil...not the majority.

SC2150 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 10:39 PM   #9
911medic

 
911medic's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Near Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,578
So I finally had an opportunity to follow this DIY, and wanted to chime in with some feedback/info that others may find useful.

First off, this guide was extremely easy to follow and made the removal/replacement of my IM to examine my intake valves very easy. I pulled my IM and replaced it in just a couple of hours, and that included time for cleaning various parts and taking pictures (see here).

I found oil in my air intake tube (from the "clean side" PCV tube), a dirty throttle body, oil in my IM "catch reservoir" (not a ton, but some), and oil coating the interior of my IM. I also found oil and grit/grime around each intake runner opening where the gasket seals the IM and block together, and yes, carbon on my valves--one was particularly bad. I now have an RX catch can and breather installed, so hopefully once things are clean, they'll stay that way.

Back to the DIY. Step 15 describes disconnecting the TB electrical connector by sliding the red slide lock out and wiggling the connector free. For me, no amount of wiggling would free the connector. I even tried some gentle prying with a flat blade screwdriver, to no avail. The only way I could get it to release was to depress the tab that the red slide lock slides behind, then it came off easily. The tab is circled in yellow in the following picture:



Jeff and I discussed this briefly, and he confirmed his does not require the tab to be depressed to remove his plug, but mine definitely does, so if you're having an issue at this step, try both techniques. For me, it seems like the slide lock prevents this tab from being depressed, unless it's slid out.

I also removed the throttle body (step 19) before removing the manifold (step 18), though I don't think it matters. It was just easier for me to unbolt the TB while the IM was still mounted.

Jeff mentions the 6 IM manifold bolts (step 16), and how the rear one cannot be removed until the IM itself is slid out from under the cowl area. Something else to note is that the rear bolt is the only one that is different than the others. The other 5 appear identical, but the rear bolt is shorter, so when reinstalling, don't get it mixed up with the others:

Step 23 mentions the gasket between the IM and block sitting on a "rubberized spacer." Here is a picture of that spacer for informational purposes, and also a picture of it removed/replaced in it's position on the block:







I actually wonder if this part isn't some kind of acoustic foam, as it sits right over the fuel rails. Maybe helps deaden some noise?

Anyway, the guide was great, made it easy. Anyone with the basic required tools can do this! I cleaned my TB, air tube, and IM with some B12 Chemtool throttle body cleaner, and reassembled no problem. Next will be a Seafoam treatment, then possibly (well, probably) a manual valve cleaning using this guide again!
__________________
All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread
Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller
RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting
Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting
911medic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 10:25 AM   #10
SC2150
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 6,063
Great addition to the thread.

I though "if it needed a catchcan GM would have equipped it with one"? LOL.

That foam is to deaden the sound of the injectors on DI engines as they are very loud operating above 2000 PSI.

SC2150 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 10:41 AM   #11
camaro2lt
 
camaro2lt's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT VR/RS CGM Rally's
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Palmyra, PA
Posts: 5,675
does anyone know if you can put a 2012 manifold on a 2010 v6? it would save some weight + maybe more power??
__________________
camaro2lt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:29 PM   #12
SC2150
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 6,063
No. Port shape is different and bolts are just slightly off.

SC2150 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2013, 10:55 AM   #13
terry_b

 
terry_b's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 1LE
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Hudson, MA
Posts: 1,379
Send a message via MSN to terry_b
Old thread, new life!

So I'm planning on giving my intake a nice cleaning when I'm off work next week. I'm seriously considering getting a small blaster from harbor freight and some fine walnut media.
http://www.harborfreight.com/portabl...kit-37025.html

I was wondering if anybody had any input? Using scrub brushes and seafoam looks like it cleans the majority of the valves, but not as well near the outside sealing surface. I know the walnut process has been used before and thought it might be worth the investment. Anybody ever use this harbor freight one?
__________________
terry_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2013, 07:59 PM   #14
ChadG

 
ChadG's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black Camaro LS
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 1,679
That scares me just because I don't see how you'd ensure you get all the media back out . . . plus if your valve isn't completely closed then you're also going to get some in the cylinder. If you know what you're doing go for it, but for me it sounds more risky than using Techron or Seafoam with microfibers/hand tools.

Post your results when you do it!

Last edited by ChadG; 11-04-2013 at 10:16 PM.
ChadG is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
cleaning, diy, intake manifold, lfx, valves

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.