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arpad_m · 10-17-2019, 05:16 PM

Completely non-Camaro topic, but I've noticed an increasing trend of people misusing past participles in a weird way. They say "should have went" and "would have did" and I can't help but cringe... what is this, a new hipster trend I've missed? Or a failure of basic modern day English language education?

The thing is, it isn't just teenagers, I see it across the entire gamut, from teens to baby boomers.

Do you guys know where this is coming from? Full disclosure, my native language is not English, so I might be missing a sign of the times or some cultural background theme here.

SS Performance · 10-17-2019, 05:22 PM

It's a sign of the dumbing down of the American people.

Camaro_QC · 10-17-2019, 06:34 PM

I probably make that mistake... But I have an excuse, English is not my mother language.

I should have went to school a little more to learn it probably. Maybe I should have did my homework too, it would have helped.

(I did the above on purpose by the way).

"Would have did" even to me sounds wrong. But "should have went" doesn't feel weird. For my personal education, what would be the proper way to say it? And could you please put it in context?

And by the way, it is the same in French. People are getting worse and worse when they write it. It sucks cause french is a very nice language, but it will kind of die off at some point since we are all surrounded by English in north america.

11_Camaro · 10-17-2019, 07:05 PM

I will chime in, because I have noticed the usage of "should have went". The proper word is "gone", as in "I should have gone to school a little more..."

KenKat · 10-17-2019, 07:44 PM

Camaro drivers are among the most sophisticated when it comes to grammar, politeness and high culture after all.

arpad_m · 10-17-2019, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KenKat

Camaro drivers are among the most sophisticated when it comes to grammar, politeness and high culture after all.

Oh, it isn't just this forum, I picked up on this trend elsewhere, then I've begun seeing it here as well. Still mostly online, though, which is a definite hint... Yeah, I know this isn't the point and of course I won't poop into anyone's thread with mere grammar corrections.

I grew up in an age when the written word was, if not sacred, but at least more scrutinized and had to meet much higher expectations. Oh well. Guess it's time to run out and send those pesky kids off my lawn.

FasNuf · 10-17-2019, 09:36 PM

I say it wrong too and never knew. No way I can correct it now. It comes down to teachers being pressed for time to teach things in the classroom and their curriculum. I don't remember ever being taught these things and I have had some pretty good English teachers.
(How bad was this?)

Vegas Bound · 10-17-2019, 10:09 PM

Irregardless, since the advent of the electronic keyboard forms of communication, communication skills have gone downhill.

Dave-ROR · 10-17-2019, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

Irregardless, since the advent of the electronic keyboard forms of communication, communication skills have gone downhill.

I hope irregardless was used jokingly...

Blue_6.2 · 10-17-2019, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

Irregardless

Either very well placed satire or

Camaro__ss · 10-17-2019, 11:54 PM

Should have learnt it better I reckon.

hrpiii · 10-18-2019, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro__ss

Should have learnt it better I reckon.

is this a statement or a question. See, it's this type of punctuation that is confusing. I understood the rest of it.

You see this transition to improper spelling and sentence structure because of everyone abbreviating on social media more and more. They do it a couple times and before they know it, it is second nature. LMAO, OMG, IMMA, etc., etc. Then when they try to type sentences out, they are totally lost again.

SquawkVFR · 10-18-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Completely non-Camaro topic, but I've noticed an increasing trend of people misusing past participles in a weird way. They say "should have went" and "would have did" and I can't help but cringe... what is this, a new hipster trend I've missed? Or a failure of basic modern day English language education?

The thing is, it isn't just teenagers, I see it across the entire gamut, from teens to baby boomers.

Do you guys know where this is coming from? Full disclosure, my native language is not English, so I might be missing a sign of the times or some cultural background theme here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Oh, it isn't just this forum, I picked up on this trend elsewhere, then I've begun seeing it here as well. Still mostly online, though, which is a definite hint... Yeah, I know this isn't the point and of course I won't poop into anyone's thread with mere grammar corrections.

I grew up in an age when the written word was, if not sacred, but at least more scrutinized and had to meet much higher expectations. Oh well. Guess it's time to run out and send those pesky kids off my lawn.

These posts contain many grammatical and punctuation errors that would be considered highly cringeworthy to the trained eye. Perhaps you should further educate yourself on basic modern day English before making corrections on others.

SSJ455 · 10-18-2019, 09:00 AM

I feel this way, two!!!

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Camaro_QC Drives: 08 Tiburon GS, 2018 Camaro 2.0T Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Québec Posts: 1,659	I probably make that mistake... But I have an excuse, English is not my mother language. I should have went to school a little more to learn it probably. Maybe I should have did my homework too, it would have helped. (I did the above on purpose by the way). "Would have did" even to me sounds wrong. But "should have went" doesn't feel weird. For my personal education, what would be the proper way to say it? And could you please put it in context? And by the way, it is the same in French. People are getting worse and worse when they write it. It sucks cause french is a very nice language, but it will kind of die off at some point since we are all surrounded by English in north america. __________________ 2018 Camaro LS \| 6 spd \| 2.0L turbo \| Nightfall Grey \| RS package \| Technology Package. --------------------- Order WDGHKX 1100 - 5/08/2018 \| 3800 - 6/18/2018 2000 - 5/09/2018 \| 4200 - 6/21/2018 3000 - 5/28/2018 \| 5000 - 6/27/2018 6000 - 6/29/2018

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10-17-2019, 07:05 PM	#4
11_Camaro Drives: 2022 Hyundai Veloster N Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,926	I will chime in, because I have noticed the usage of "should have went". The proper word is "gone", as in "I should have gone to school a little more..."

10-17-2019, 07:44 PM	#5
KenKat Drives: 2014 2LT RS Summit White Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 622	Camaro drivers are among the most sophisticated when it comes to grammar, politeness and high culture after all.

10-17-2019, 09:36 PM	#7
FasNuf Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,611 View My Garage	I say it wrong too and never knew. No way I can correct it now. It comes down to teachers being pressed for time to teach things in the classroom and their curriculum. I don't remember ever being taught these things and I have had some pretty good English teachers. (How bad was this?)

10-17-2019, 10:09 PM	#8
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	Irregardless, since the advent of the electronic keyboard forms of communication, communication skills have gone downhill.

10-17-2019, 11:54 PM	#11
Camaro__ss Drives: 2013 L99 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 185	Should have learnt it better I reckon.