Official: 2013 Camaro 1LE Performance Package: 426-hp, 1g cornering, under $40,000

[49ersXXIX]

so it's basically an SS with the 1LE performance package.... hmmm..... i would have thought their would be a bit more HP. I don't know. I was looking forward to more HP. The additional accessories are nice, but this is a let down for me.

[GraphixJunkie]

Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

Well this is a track pack. For the SS..... No love for the V6's

Ok, well yeah I suppose that's right.... I still to this day just wish the RS option included lowering, better brakes, and a few other nice bits for the V6'ers. Headlights, roof ditch molding, wing and some nice wheels don't really represent "Rally Sport" to me.

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by GraphixJunkie

Ok, well yeah I suppose that's right.... I still to this day just wish the RS option included lowering, better brakes, and a few other nice bits for the V6'ers. Headlights, roof ditch molding, wing and some nice wheels don't really represent "Rally Sport" to me.

Well the RS package has always been an appearance package. Even the SLP RS package, but at least they had sway bar and exhaust options. With the mustang V6 performance pack, and the new Challenger V6 performance pack out now chevy needs to step up.

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

There are no DOCH LS engines period. GM has no plans to stray from the tried and true OHV V8. GM has said so, and the next gen V8s are all going to be OHV. They killed the Northstar DOHC V8s specifically to run the same OHV architechture across all brands. If you try to run an LS3 to 7500 rpms prepare for things to break and your warranty to be voided. I don't know how these rumors start. Its worse than the 5.5 displacement everyone keeps harping about.

Leaked info by the UAW before the financial turmoil accidentally revealed a dohc based next gen LS engine for primary use in premium suvs and trucks along with an ohv based next gen LS for primary use in cars. This is not the premium dohc V8 program that was killed a few years ago.

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/new...eunionuaw.html

Second United Auto Workers Agreement Reveals General Motors' Potential Future Truck Plans
By: Mike Levine Posted: 10-01-07 12:30 PT
© 2007 PickupTruck.com

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Update #1: 10-01-07 12:55 PT

I've clarified my comment about SIDI being similar to a diesel. Both diesels and SIDI engines directly inject fuel into the combustion chamber. I've added text that diesels rely on high compression ratios to auto-ignite the fuel-air mixture, whereas SIDI motors still use a spark plug.

A reader also brought to my attention that Honda uses cylinder deactivation in its 3.5-liter SOHC V6 engine. My point - and it should have been stated more clearly - is that cylinder deactivation hasn't seen fuel economy returns worth the investment necessary for a full size truck's overhead cam V8 - or else Toyota and Ford would have offered this in their OHC V8s already.

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This is the toughest story I've written.

On Friday afternoon I watched the newswires and Wall Street Journal break information about GM's future product plans that were revealed in the "White Book" agreement between GM and the UAW settling last week's strike.

One of the items that caught my attention was the name of GM's next full size truck platform, C3XX. So, I went and did some more background searching on the 'C3XX' identifier, using Google.

To my surprise a second, internal UAW-GM document appeared in Google's search results. The document can be found on the Future of the Union website and Google's publicly available search cache.

On Friday the document ranked much higher in the search results, before the "White Book" news containing the 'C3XX' term at more popular websites moved up in Google's page rankings.

The information about what's contained in that document is in the story below.

After wrestling with this decision, and consulting with several colleagues, I've decided to publish this story because I believe it's relevant to the "White Book" news and GM's current state of affairs with the UAW.

- M.L.

A document found online (using Google) at the Future of the Union website suggests that General Motors is preparing to substantially overhaul the engine lineup used in its next generation full size trucks.

Future of the Union has published an internal memorandum of understanding that contains detailed information about contract negotiations that took place in June 2007 among the United Auto Worker (UAW) union, General Motors (GM), and GM’s largest supplier, Delphi.

The document contains GM’s future product commitments to UAW-represented employees at Delphi, similar to the future product timelines that emerged from the recent strike settlement contract between GM and the UAW.

Most notable are the powertrain components that Delphi is expected to supply for use in the C3XX truck program, starting in 2011. The C3XX platform will replace the current GMT 900 architecture that underpins the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra full size pickups.

According to the document, C3XX pickups will feature a new 'Gen V' 6.2-liter dual overhead cam (DOHC) V8 engine - a major departure from GM's traditional overhead valve (OHV) pushrod engine design used in its trucks, like the ‘Gen IV’ 403-horsepower / 417 lb-feet L92 6.2-liter V8 under the hood of the GMC Sierra Denali. The only DOHC V8 GM currently offers is Cadillac’s 4.6-liter Northstar engine.

The Gen V 6.2 motor will use variable valve timing (VVT) like the Gen IV 6.2, but the use of dual overhead cams holds the promise of four valves per cylinder instead of the current two valves, for better intake and exhaust flow and increased power. This is a similar setup to the 5.7-liter i-Force V8 used in the Toyota Tundra, but the Gen V 6.2 will also offer GM's active fuel management (AFM) system. AFM shuts down half the cylinders during steady state running for improved fuel economy – a feature not currently available for the i-Force. Up until this point, it’s been conventional wisdom that implementing cylinder deactivation on OHC engines is impractical for reasons of cost and complexity.

Pushrod engines won’t be disappearing entirely from GM’s truck line. A new ‘Gen V’ OHV V8 will replace the current 320-hp / 340 lb-feet 5.3-liter V8. Apparently the final displacement hasn’t been determined yet, because it’s referred to as 5X.

The new 5X gasoline engine will feature spark ignition direct injection (SIDI), similar to a diesel's fuel injection setup but still using a spark plug to ignite the fuel instead of diesel's high compression ratio that causes the fuel air mixture to auto-ignite. SIDI places the fuel injector right inside the combustion chamber, so fuel can be directly mixed with air entering the chamber during the intake stroke instead of before it enters the chamber, like in a conventional multi-port fuel injected gas engine. This approach enables a leaner burn of the fuel at higher compression ratios than current gas engines, resulting in greater fuel economy, cleaner emissions, and more power.

Initial production of both engines is slated to start in 2011 with full production in 2012.

Of course, it's possible that because this information is still approximately three years out in time, plans detailed in this document for the full size truck powertrains could still change.

Contacted for comment, a GM spokesperson told PickupTruck.com that GM doesn't make statements about documents like this.

There was no phone number or names listed to contact the Future of the Union website for comment.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

I would conclude that GM is going to announce either another Synergy Series car or the Dusk Blue Edition for the Month of April. Lots of excitement for Chevy next month and with the starting shipments of the ZL1.......... .....and the warmer weather, happy times for all sports car enthusiasts (more for the Camaro people..ssshhhhh)

...ohboy........here we go..........

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by kiteman

it seems to me like the way this article reads, the 1LE BASE will be under 40k. will the base include the head unit? if so, what doesn't the base include? and what about the regular 1SS and 2SS, will they be priced similarly to the 1LE or closer to 2012 prices?

last i checked on c5, there is always an abundance of affordability concerns with the camaro lineup. sure it'd be nice to own one with every feature possible, but it's also possible many of you that "wish you had waited" would have waited to only be offered a new camaro out of your price range.

not that my opinion matters in the mix of 15+ pages of comments, but i think the 1LE looks a little dumb. wasn't it the ricers who initially started the whole "let's paint one of our body panels a different color than the rest of the car" trend? and black wheels are generally disgusting if you ask me. the only thing discouraging about this article to me, a happy 2012 owner, is that i can afford the 2013 upgrade such as the head unit and would have preferred that over my 2012's configuration. but the 1LE itself isn't doing anything for me.

to each his own, my Camaro Comrade -- to each his own.........

The GOOD news? Look at the many 'flavors' in which the Camaro can be ordered!....

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Mcchuck

Will there be intergrated NAV in the 7" touchscreen. It does not look like it.. WTF!!!!

Read the press release again, please.....

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

DETROIT – The road-racing inspired Camaro 1LE performance package returns for 2013 with
unique gearing, suspension tuning, and tires that makes the model capable of more than 1 g of
lateral acceleration and a sub-three minute lap time at Virginia International Raceway’s Grand
Course. It is offered on Camaro SS coupes with manual transmissions.







And it doesn't hurt to have an engine that can safely rev to 7 grand also.

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.......when a graphic artist needs a killin'.............





Artist's rendition only!

[Plexus]

I can already see someone with the license plate "BOSSKLR" Haha

[ParisTNDude]

I wish they had bumped the HP to about 460 or more. This car may be a good competitor for the 302 on the track.

[TaylorRyanSS]

Originally Posted by kiteman

not that my opinion matters in the mix of 15+ pages of comments, but i think the 1LE looks a little dumb. wasn't it the ricers who initially started the whole "let's paint one of our body panels a different color than the rest of the car" trend? and black wheels are generally disgusting if you ask me. the only thing discouraging about this article to me, a happy 2012 owner, is that i can afford the 2013 upgrade such as the head unit and would have preferred that over my 2012's configuration. but the 1LE itself isn't doing anything for me.

I would much rather have a Z28 with unique parts, but for now this will do for most people. I guess they are saving the Z28 for the next gen. You really need to get with the times. Matte paint and black wheels are really in right now. I guess Lamborghini's factory black wheels are disgusting too. A track car such as this would look odd with anything but black wheels.

[gnturboray]

Thats a good looking car!! This 1LE to the Camaro world is that of the Grand Sport of the Corvette world.

[dcplus14]

JEALOUS

btw....when did the LS3 on the SS get 420 torque? Is that only on the 1LE?

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

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.......when a graphic artist needs a killin'.............





Artist's rendition only!

Thanks for the clarification on the tach info, so you are saying the pic is wrong, right? I've been on this site way too long today, over 14 hours now.