Pulled over because of Hill Start Assist - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Dupree878 · 04-18-2013, 05:47 PM

This just happened. I'll try to be as succinct as possible while keeping it clear.

I was leaving the grocery store about 5:15 right in the middle of rush hour. The exit drive to pull onto the highway leading to my home is up a not insignificant hill. I was stopped for the truck in front of me (HSA was on) and when he went I pulled up and waited for it to be clear to pull out (I was turning left). HSA was on, but I'd let off the brakes as I'm accustomed to doing now so there was very little pressure holding me. When it was clear and I started to go, a car pulled out of the right turn out and suddenly looped back into the left turn out where I was trying to leave in front of me and I had to hit the brakes hard to stop.
As soon as he cleared, I was still OK to go, but didn't have the buffer I did before so I tried to go a little harder. Well, HSA was on again and since I'd stopped so hard when the idiot pulled in front of me, it held me firm. Without thinking I did as I'm now accustomed to in this car and gave it a lot more gas (rush hour highway traffic isn't the time to dawdle) and I started pulling off and was well over 3,000RPMs. Then HSA released and the rear tires broke loose and squealed (not too bad, but more than just a chirp).
Now I'm in my lane and headed home and I see blue and red lights behind me. I just knew he was coming because of me so I turned into the next road and waited and he came behind me and stopped.
It was a city cop who accused me of showing out as I was pulling out of the grocery store. I tried to explain about the Hill Start Assist, which he took to mean that I didn't know how to drive a stick and I must have rolled back and overcompensated. So he gave me the sage wisdom that I should use the handbrake to not roll back on hills like that and I wouldn't have to overpower it. (I didn't even argue since he obviously wasn't giving me a ticket).
Overall, no harm done, but still I had to deal with this and get lectured about how to drive from someone who probably has 15 less years experience in a manual trans vehicle than I do.

I'm mostly just venting but damn this "feature" should be defeatable or not exist at all. I'm dealing with it much better than I did before (not stalling anymore) but it sucks that I'm always worrying about it.

06_warrior · 04-18-2013, 06:17 PM

I keep hearing bad things about the Hill Assist. I'm glad the 12's didn't come with it.

Beescuz · 04-18-2013, 06:21 PM

He was having a bad day. Should have offered him a snickers...

06_warrior · 04-18-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beescuz

He was having a bad day. Should have offered him a snickers...

Did the cop look like Roseanne?

Dr. Love · 04-18-2013, 06:22 PM

Can you turn it off?

06_warrior · 04-18-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Love

Can you turn it off?

No, not as of yet. Which is pretty sad. They should of made a way to disable it.

zackex · 04-18-2013, 06:30 PM

I have a 2012 and use the E brake anyway. I still don't understand exactly how the Hill Start works. From what I can gather from these threads is that there is a 2 second delay once you let off the brake and only after it is set. What triggers it the hill or the roll back and how do you release it. Surely there had to be more thought put in to the system.

gmen09 · 04-18-2013, 06:31 PM

Hey just think, at least you didn't get a ticket. Not saying you deserved to get pulled over, and you honestly shouldn't have been in the situation (if the HSA wasn't so annoying). But at least the cop was "nice" about it.

MBS · 04-18-2013, 06:37 PM

Get use to it man , Camaros got everyone's eye ,

Silverlsinva · 04-18-2013, 07:33 PM

I swear I hear about the Hill start threads a lot and I guess in the Camaro its pretty bad to not let go when trying to move. I have a Fiat 500 abarth that has it and its super seamless its like the second I step on the gas the brake lets go, I also have a option to turn it off as well, I hope the engineers give future Camaro owners that option.

shawn18 · 04-18-2013, 07:53 PM

Yeah its the worst feature ever put on a car,,,,period

HeavyIOM · 04-18-2013, 08:25 PM

I have something like that in my 13 mustang. never had a problem with it though. soon as the gas is touched it releases.

cvp33 · 04-18-2013, 08:29 PM

Same here but even more pronounced on the ZL1. Felt like the car wouldn't move and then suddenly it just lurched forward. Slight traction break for about 40'. Oops.

90503 · 04-18-2013, 08:31 PM

Keep your eyes out for a fix...I saw somewhere on the forums Chevy is aware of this business and is "re-programming" it for the '14s to be more friendly....Perhaps there will be a TSB or re-call at some point for the '13s....

04-18-2013, 05:47 PM	#1
Dupree878 Drives: '13 Dusk Edition 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 600	Pulled over because of Hill Start Assist This just happened. I'll try to be as succinct as possible while keeping it clear. I was leaving the grocery store about 5:15 right in the middle of rush hour. The exit drive to pull onto the highway leading to my home is up a not insignificant hill. I was stopped for the truck in front of me (HSA was on) and when he went I pulled up and waited for it to be clear to pull out (I was turning left). HSA was on, but I'd let off the brakes as I'm accustomed to doing now so there was very little pressure holding me. When it was clear and I started to go, a car pulled out of the right turn out and suddenly looped back into the left turn out where I was trying to leave in front of me and I had to hit the brakes hard to stop. As soon as he cleared, I was still OK to go, but didn't have the buffer I did before so I tried to go a little harder. Well, HSA was on again and since I'd stopped so hard when the idiot pulled in front of me, it held me firm. Without thinking I did as I'm now accustomed to in this car and gave it a lot more gas (rush hour highway traffic isn't the time to dawdle) and I started pulling off and was well over 3,000RPMs. Then HSA released and the rear tires broke loose and squealed (not too bad, but more than just a chirp). Now I'm in my lane and headed home and I see blue and red lights behind me. I just knew he was coming because of me so I turned into the next road and waited and he came behind me and stopped. It was a city cop who accused me of showing out as I was pulling out of the grocery store. I tried to explain about the Hill Start Assist, which he took to mean that I didn't know how to drive a stick and I must have rolled back and overcompensated. So he gave me the sage wisdom that I should use the handbrake to not roll back on hills like that and I wouldn't have to overpower it. (I didn't even argue since he obviously wasn't giving me a ticket). Overall, no harm done, but still I had to deal with this and get lectured about how to drive from someone who probably has 15 less years experience in a manual trans vehicle than I do. I'm mostly just venting but damn this "feature" should be defeatable or not exist at all. I'm dealing with it much better than I did before (not stalling anymore) but it sucks that I'm always worrying about it. __________________

04-18-2013, 06:22 PM	#5
Dr. Love Drives: 2012 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: AZ Posts: 622 View My Garage	Can you turn it off? __________________

04-18-2013, 06:30 PM	#7
zackex Drives: 45th Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: boston Posts: 74 View My Garage	I have a 2012 and use the E brake anyway. I still don't understand exactly how the Hill Start works. From what I can gather from these threads is that there is a 2 second delay once you let off the brake and only after it is set. What triggers it the hill or the roll back and how do you release it. Surely there had to be more thought put in to the system. __________________ Audente Fortuna Iuvat

04-18-2013, 06:31 PM	#8
gmen09 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS ls3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Flemington NJ Posts: 588 View My Garage	Hey just think, at least you didn't get a ticket. Not saying you deserved to get pulled over, and you honestly shouldn't have been in the situation (if the HSA wasn't so annoying). But at least the cop was "nice" about it. __________________

04-18-2013, 07:53 PM	#11
shawn18 OWTATIME Drives: 1969 CaRaMo Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,082	Yeah its the worst feature ever put on a car,,,,period __________________

04-18-2013, 06:17 PM	#2
06_warrior Drives: 2012 1SS LS3 M6 black on black :) Join Date: May 2012 Location: SD Posts: 1,342	I keep hearing bad things about the Hill Assist. I'm glad the 12's didn't come with it.

04-18-2013, 06:21 PM	#3
Beescuz Drives: 2021 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 409 View My Garage	He was having a bad day. Should have offered him a snickers...

04-18-2013, 06:37 PM	#9
MBS Drives: 2010 rs 2lt Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: wisconsin Posts: 2,497	Get use to it man , Camaros got everyone's eye ,

04-18-2013, 07:33 PM	#10
Silverlsinva Drives: 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth Grigio Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Manassas, Va Posts: 3,124	I swear I hear about the Hill start threads a lot and I guess in the Camaro its pretty bad to not let go when trying to move. I have a Fiat 500 abarth that has it and its super seamless its like the second I step on the gas the brake lets go, I also have a option to turn it off as well, I hope the engineers give future Camaro owners that option.

04-18-2013, 08:25 PM	#12
HeavyIOM Drives: 2010 SS, 2000 Pontiac Formula Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 509	I have something like that in my 13 mustang. never had a problem with it though. soon as the gas is touched it releases.

04-18-2013, 08:29 PM	#13
cvp33 America FVCK Yeah! Drives: 2021 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 1,388	Same here but even more pronounced on the ZL1. Felt like the car wouldn't move and then suddenly it just lurched forward. Slight traction break for about 40'. Oops. __________________ 1997 Z28 Anniversary Edition *SOLD* 2004 GTO *ORDER CANCELLED* 2004 CTS-V *SOLD* 2005 CTS-V *SOLD* 2006 300C SRT-8 *SOLD* 2006 300C SRT-8 *SOLD* 2010 CTS-V *SOLD* 2012 CTS-V coupe *SOLD* 2013 ZL1 vert *SOLD* 2016 Callaway Z06 *SOLD* 2019 Z06 *SOLD* "I lived my life by one motto.......mottos are for losers" cvp33

04-18-2013, 08:31 PM	#14
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,426	Keep your eyes out for a fix...I saw somewhere on the forums Chevy is aware of this business and is "re-programming" it for the '14s to be more friendly....Perhaps there will be a TSB or re-call at some point for the '13s....