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Old 10-14-2013, 12:49 PM   #29
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This is what I'm after.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:38 PM   #30
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I was actually a little disappointed at the boost kick in, you can tell that they are there from 2k+ on the street but it does not get wild till about 3500+
I saw that you installed the AEM Truboost EBC - did you/they set up the Spring Pressure (SPr) to get that boost up earlier? If so, what is the current setting for SPr?
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:43 PM   #31
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That is what the shop car graph looks like but much more of a torque spike down low. Went to 740ftlbs then dropped back down.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:20 PM   #32
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If you look at both graphs they are very similar in powerband.

Levischilz makes 500 ft lbs at 3400rpm
Unobtanium makes 500 ft lbs at 3200rpm

Levischilz makes 600 ft lbs at 3600rpm
Unobtanium makes 600 ft lbs at 34000rpm

I know I am racing dyno graphs here which I HATE, but it's not as big of a difference as you see. Those couple hundred rpm difference can be made up or equalized by different dynos on different days, etc.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:41 PM   #33
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If you look at both graphs they are very similar in powerband.

Levischilz makes 500 ft lbs at 3400rpm
Unobtanium makes 500 ft lbs at 3200rpm

Levischilz makes 600 ft lbs at 3600rpm
Unobtanium makes 600 ft lbs at 34000rpm

I know I am racing dyno graphs here which I HATE, but it's not as big of a difference as you see. Those couple hundred rpm difference can be made up or equalized by different dynos on different days, etc.
Absolutely agree. Also agree that dyno's are not ideal comparisons, but both are dyno jet, and just meant having that 50-100 ft/lbs a few hundred rpm sooner is a lot more fun than 50 hp up top.
The graph posted is of a 6L LQ9(ls6 cam) with 25 year old technology Grand National stock turbos, at 9 and 12 psi. They are rated as 350hp turbos, and are really quite small. Point being, same exact size with the new wheel technology would be better all over.
What turbos are on the shop car? Those sound like a killer set-up.
Post up a vid of the car...would like to see that!!!
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:33 PM   #34
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Absolutely agree. Also agree that dyno's are not ideal comparisons, but both are dyno jet, and just meant having that 50-100 ft/lbs a few hundred rpm sooner is a lot more fun than 50 hp up top.
The graph posted is of a 6L LQ9(ls6 cam) with 25 year old technology Grand National stock turbos, at 9 and 12 psi. They are rated as 350hp turbos, and are really quite small. Point being, same exact size with the new wheel technology would be better all over.
What turbos are on the shop car? Those sound like a killer set-up.
Post up a vid of the car...would like to see that!!!
It's close to 100 up top. but I'm not counting. And that few hundred RPM sooner on a drift car might be ideal. Either of these setups on the street is way more than will be utilized fully. I do completely see your point and any little bit of widening the area under the curve is what the goal is, (whether or not it's ever usable).

Turbos on the shop car are identical to what the OP has.
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:47 PM   #35
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I have a video but it doesn't show anything but a black Camaro going down the track. Can't read the boards or hear it. Hopefully a better one pops up.

I do have a few good photos.
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:01 PM   #36
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It's close to 100 up top. but I'm not counting. And that few hundred RPM sooner on a drift car might be ideal. Either of these setups on the street is way more than will be utilized fully. I do completely see your point and any little bit of widening the area under the curve is what the goal is, (whether or not it's ever usable).

Turbos on the shop car are identical to what the OP has.
Yes, you are right. It's almost 100hp. That is a decent difference. If you are racing, I could see this being a big deal too.
That said, the almost 100ft/lbs difference at 3500 would be a ton of fun on the street.
Is the shop motor bigger, or cams?
The S256 would love more boost too. Anybody running your kit with a built motor? Should do 850whp pretty easy around 12-13lbs.
Anyway, love that blue on the C7. Those cars are putting down 450whp or so and more torque with just headers. I love that the v8's are finally embracing some technology!
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:03 PM   #37
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If Levi just bolted on dual 3" exhaust, it would spool several hundred RPM quicker too. And then factor in you could use smaller turbos than the big ones he got. You can really get a lot of power down low if you want it.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:47 AM   #38
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Here is one of my pulls you can compare.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:03 AM   #39
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do you have larger turbos than the other 2 people? If not why is your tq curve with the same kit so drastically different?
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:16 AM   #40
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he has the base kit if im correct. Which uses s251's and im on the s256's.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:26 PM   #41
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he has the base kit if im correct. Which uses s251's and im on the s256's.
That doesn't make any sense. On the same dyno, why is it soft down low like that? Centris have made more under 4000...
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:04 PM   #42
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No loaded type Dynojet vs. loaded.
Boost controller adjustment plays a huge roll on how early the gates start to open. Someone posted a dyno here not long ago that had 600tq through an auto at 3400 on a bone stock L99.
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