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Old 04-12-2017, 03:19 PM   #211
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How could that be true, if the Hellcat can't take a corner? This last weekend, I was do demo runs for GM at Barrett-Jackson in the "Fifty", while there were Corvettes from Ron Fellows School, Roush & Shelby Mustangs from Ford and Hellcats & whatever they call the Charger with the Hellcat motor. All the cars could handle the course except the Dodges - they had to try to drift through the corners to get through and were therefore slow as molasses
I'll have to respectfully disagree with that. I hold allegiance to nothing here, so take this from a neutral position. Let's all re-listen to this again shall we? https://youtu.be/RiF54pLOoKw

Not simply a "tuned" Hellcat engine, and this car is purposefully built for one thing only. Watch the vid, listen to the dude, report back.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:21 PM   #212
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Nah...moot point imho.

If Sledge were 4wd, I'd still never take it out. I(as many others) have a 4wd shitbox just for that.
... again, when winter/snow comes, they'll rule the roads.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:24 PM   #213
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... again, when winter/snow comes, they'll rule the roads.
The 1/4 mile tracks, or any track for that matter is closed during the winter.

OK, if you mean ice-racing on frozen lakes and rivers with studded Hakka tires, then I concur lol.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:40 PM   #214
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The 1/4 mile tracks, or any track for that matter is closed during the winter.

OK, if you mean ice-racing on frozen lakes and rivers with studded Hakka tires, then I concur lol.
... even in "Mexico", there is still racing to be done.
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Old 04-12-2017, 04:08 PM   #215
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I'll have to respectfully disagree with that. I hold allegiance to nothing here, so take this from a neutral position. Let's all re-listen to this again shall we? https://youtu.be/RiF54pLOoKw

Not simply a "tuned" Hellcat engine, and this car is purposefully built for one thing only. Watch the vid, listen to the dude, report back.
Please read the Quote I was posting to!
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Old 04-12-2017, 04:15 PM   #216
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Please read the Quote I was posting to!
Ok, perhaps the context of my answer to you was off the mark by a few degrees, lol.

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Old 04-13-2017, 12:28 AM   #217
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I'm excited. Demon will eventually be in my garage soon enough.
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Old 04-13-2017, 04:32 AM   #218
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If you have to drag a box full of tires/tools with you to the track, just load up the car as well
Ah, but you don't need to take a box full of tools....
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:48 AM   #219
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I will reserve all judgment until some official reviews have been completed. With that being said, I want to see this car's street mannerisms. IMHO, ~90-95% of them will never see a track, since I believe most owner's won't be too willing to hack up their ~$85-90k car in order to install a cage. Will it handle better, is it more nimble, is it simply a one trick (stop light to stop light) pony? We should know in a few weeks. As I've stated plenty of times before, I'm a GM guy, but when I see something cool, I can appreciate it. Competition breeds success.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:28 AM   #220
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I will reserve all judgment until some official reviews have been completed. With that being said, I want to see this car's street mannerisms. IMHO, ~90-95% of them will never see a track, since I believe most owner's won't be too willing to hack up their ~$85-90k car in order to install a cage. Will it handle better, is it more nimble, is it simply a one trick (stop light to stop light) pony? We should know in a few weeks. As I've stated plenty of times before, I'm a GM guy, but when I see something cool, I can appreciate it. Competition breeds success.
Yeah, what good is street legal if it sucks on the street. I stiffened my suspension a bit too much in the name of performance and sometimes regret it depending on the road surface.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:48 AM   #221
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I've read a few online articles that claim the Demon will also be a respectable car in the twisties as well. I'm curious if there is any truth to that.
It's amazing watching fake news articles and their effects on people.

You never once thought to yourself, "I wonder why I never see a 1/4 mi purpose built race car on the twisties?" Or, "Gee, why is the ZL1 so great at the 1/4 mi but gets dominated by the Z/28 on the track?"

Online articles said it though, so it must be true. Dodge released the first ever vehicle in history that can dominate both the 1/4 mi and twisties. They have Guinness book of records to prove it!
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:55 AM   #222
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Um, doesn't NHRA require a 4 or 5 point roll bar to even run 11's?
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And, they were talking fastest production car at the STRIP, not overall.
It isn't that either...there are more than a few cars that trap higher.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:59 AM   #223
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Nothing about this car is a fail.

It was preceded by two months of hype which set expectations sky high... then somehow surpassed those expectations with numbers that are simply stunning. This car is not only quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile than every production car in the world, but every (as far as I know) sport bike as well! Think about that for a minute.

Not a fail.

No cage is, to me, a plus. For people who aren't going to race it... which, let's be real, is most everybody who buys one... they don't have to deal with it and you can actually carry passengers in the back seat (if you buy one for $1).

If you want to race it you put in a cage because you are a racer and that's what you do.

Not a fail.

Calling it the "fastest" production car is, semantics notwithstanding, marketing genius because 1.) everybody knows what they mean, and in that context 2.) it is.

Far from being a fail, the Demon is an out-and-out home run.
The fail is that the bosses allowed them to do this when their whole car line as a whole is junk. How does upper management allow them to spend even a dime on R&D on this when they have absolute crap sitting on the showroom floor and are not in good shape? For some publicity that in a month will be old news? I mean the 200 and the Dart replacements are where 100% of this money should have went...thank God I sold my stock years ago...
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:04 AM   #224
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And, they were talking fastest production car at the STRIP, not overall.
But it isn't. P1, LaFerrari, 918, Super Sport all trap higher...

...and once the Chiron is tested, it won't be the quickest anymore either.
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