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Old 04-26-2018, 07:55 AM   #1
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Ford announces its killing off all its cars; Mustang survives

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ings/34244867/

There’s been a lot of speculation between both GM and Ford on sedans getting the axe. This seems drastic; will be very interesting to see what GM decides to do with their portfolio
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:46 AM   #2
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OMG not often I use that but good grief.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:30 AM   #3
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I guess Trump killing the CAFE requirements allows Ford to do that. Ford used to sell the Focus as a loss just for the CAFE mpg.

but i won't believe it till I see it... just because those "model" die don't mean they won't be replaced by other names or electric versions. I would think the Fusion sticks around as mid-size is always a good seller.

2/3rd's of the market is SUV's and trucks. Ford makes money on them and not so much on the cars.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:08 AM   #4
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I posted on this in the off topic discussion last night. Hard to believe that cars outside of sports cars may be a thing of the past soon.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:11 AM   #5
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While drastic and surprising, it was easy to see this coming. Unfortunately.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:14 AM   #6
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You'll see this change pretty quickly when gas spikes again (and that's not an 'if')
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:16 AM   #7
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You'll see this change pretty quickly when gas spikes again (and that's not an 'if')
Yes agree. It was costing me 90 bucks a week to go to work not long ago in my truck. People will stop using trucks as daily drivers when that happens again.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:18 AM   #8
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see, that right there is what worries me. Camaro sales are going down and now I fear Chevy may dump several more models in favor of Soccer Utility Vehicles! Will the new electric Mustang make Chevy think that it is no longer viable to make the Camaro? Or are we seeing the effects of platform death in the industry?
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:25 AM   #9
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I guess Trump killing the CAFE requirements allows Ford to do that. Ford used to sell the Focus as a loss just for the CAFE mpg.
Actually, Trump just lost that battle

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...afe-penalties/
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:27 AM   #10
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You sell what people buy. Just like the new generation of kids who could care less about cars in general, driving autonomous vehicles, traditional cars are going out. Crossovers get close to the same mpg while offering AWD, more space, higher view of the road, and easier access.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:55 AM   #11
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I guess Trump killing the CAFE requirements allows Ford to do that. Ford used to sell the Focus as a loss just for the CAFE mpg.

but i won't believe it till I see it... just because those "model" die don't mean they won't be replaced by other names or electric versions. I would think the Fusion sticks around as mid-size is always a good seller.

2/3rd's of the market is SUV's and trucks. Ford makes money on them and not so much on the cars.
CAFE isn't going away, Ford is smart enough to know that even if Trump were to get that done today, his decisions will be reversed in a couple of years by the next person in that chair. Thus...

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The company has said every new Ford or Lincoln vehicle introduced over the next two years will have either a hybrid or plug-in hybrid engine option, which should buffer against rising gas prices as the vehicles get bigger, according to Hackett and Jim Farley, Ford president of global markets
This is pretty bold move. They are all but eliminating their under $25K market. It will be interesting how this pans out.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:59 AM   #12
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When they replaced Gran Torino, LTD and Thunderbird with Taurus, Fusion and Focus they lost my attention. I'm sure they were working on Aires, Fission and Retina.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:24 AM   #13
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Fiat has quietly killed off Chrysler and Dodge cars.

All that's left of them is the now 12-year old 300/Charger
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Old 04-26-2018, 01:40 PM   #14
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Highly cyclical business so they are taking a huge risk that gas won't be $4 a gallon again and the fickle consumer won't move away from SUV's and back to sedans.
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