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Old 06-19-2018, 09:10 AM   #1
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Beating a 2016 SS (LT1)

Iím curious about what mods would I need to have on my car to beat the 6th gen SS? I currently have a stock 2011 SS but next month Iíll be adding a CAI, LT headers, Tune, and 1LE exhaust.
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:14 AM   #2
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Is the 2016 stock?
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:17 AM   #3
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Is the 2016 stock?
Yes Iím just talking about any stock SS
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:26 AM   #4
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It’s hard to say what will help you with all the different factors involved. From what I see you need at least 75 rwhp to overcome the power and 200+ weight advantage they have. On a conservative dyno stock 5th gen has about 365 whp. Using what dyno’s I have seen from JDP the 6th gen can be underrated and makes 410-420. Not sure if that is normal or just a good motor. I can’t address any trans/ rear gear or suspension advantage if there is any as I don’t know as far as acceleration is concerned.
The mods you are doing will get you about 60 whp. If I am right on the power difference you would need to do a cam. Then there is the driver factor
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:30 AM   #5
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From what I see you need at least 75 rwhp to overcome the power and 200+ weight advantage they have. On a conservative dyno stock 5th gen has about 365 whp. Using what dynoís I have seen from JDP the 6th gen can be underrated and makes 410-420. Not sure if that is normal or just a good motor. I canít address any trans/ rear gear or suspension advantage if there is any as I donít know as far as acceleration is concerned.
The mods you are doing will get you about 60 whp.
I didnít know the 5th gen was a heavier car, thatís good to know. But 75hp shouldnít be that hard to gain.
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:45 AM   #6
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I didn’t know the 5th gen was a heavier car, that’s good to know. But 75hp shouldn’t be that hard to gain.
Yeah, heavy Chevy..lol the new turbo four banger only weighs 3350 lbs vs our 3850-3950. Love to have that for a autocross car!
I saw a jdp dyno with a Rotofab Cai on the 6th gen forum and that was 420, stock was 410, that was from jdp. Others were 388-400, 400 or so seems average so I had that off a bit.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:07 AM   #7
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Yeah, heavy Chevy..lol the new turbo four banger only weighs 3350 lbs vs our 3850-3950. Love to have that for a autocross car!
I saw a jdp dyno with a Rotofab Cai on the 6th gen forum and that was 420, stock was 410, that was from jdp. Others were 388-400, 400 or so seems average so I had that off a bit.



Ok thatís not too bad lol.
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Ok thatís not too bad lol.
Yeah, oh boy 10 hp different..lol
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Old 06-20-2018, 07:39 AM   #9
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I think it would also depend on the transmissions in the two cars.
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Old 06-20-2018, 07:53 AM   #10
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Gear is huge for the 5th gen. If a manual a lighter clutch as well. You find one like the RPS twin carbon with aluminum flywheel it weighs 26 pounds thats 30 pounds off the crank and the acceleration between it and gear will out perform the majority of cars that stuffed a mcmuffin cam in with no supporting mods. Most 6 gens stock are running bottom 12s in a auto and mid 12s manual in decent air. 5th gen can squeak into the upper 12s manual and lower 13s auto on average. See how the rolls flipped between 5th and 6th gen. The new auto is a much better option. Plus the 6th gen has an even heavier clutch at like 62 pounds! That is mechanical torque management from GM lol
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