Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Suspension / Brakes / Chassis


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-29-2017, 04:11 AM   #1
626CammedSS
 
626CammedSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Baldiwn Park
Posts: 26
Coilovers vs Lowering Springs

I am currently running BMR 1.4in drop alll around, the ride quality isnt that great. I was wondering if anybody has gone from lowering springs to coil overs and seen a great improvement in ride quality or any improvement. Feel free to post pics of your car with coil overs as well. Been debating for a while now about getting them, are rhey worth the money or should i stick with drop springs
626CammedSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2017, 06:41 AM   #2
KillboyPowerhead
 
Drives: 2015 1LT RS
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 619
If your car is primarily street-driven, then unless you have extra money to burn I wouldn't bother with coil-overs, especially since you already bought springs - but that's just me, of course. Maybe consider shocks such as Bilstein B6's or Koni to help with ride quality.
__________________
K&N Typhoon Cold Air Intake; Solo Performance Cat-back Exhaust; Vitesse Motorsports Throttle Controller; Elite Engineering E2 Catch Can; BC Racing BR Coilovers; JPSS Delrin Radius Rod Bushing Inserts, Sway Bars; Pegasus Aluminum Rear Cradle Bushings, Camber/Caster Plates; Z/28 Toe Links, Trailing Arms, Upper Control Arm Bushings, Rear Shock Mounts
KillboyPowerhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2017, 10:50 AM   #3
Olddudesrule
Resident nomad
 
Olddudesrule's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,769
Quote:
Originally Posted by KillboyPowerhead View Post
If your car is primarily street-driven, then unless you have extra money to burn I wouldn't bother with coil-overs, especially since you already bought springs - but that's just me, of course. Maybe consider shocks such as Bilstein B6's or Koni to help with ride quality.
Good advice IMO. I went from OEM to CO's on my 1LE, so I can't answer your question specifically. I have used lowering springs on my 370Z (Swift's), and was happy with them for the street. What I will say is, for the vast majority of us, I think the "improvements" are very subjective because most don't really push their cars to the limit, and suspension feel can be very subtle. A 1.4 inch drop with stock struts/shocks is pretty substantial, and I can understand the ride would feel pretty firm.
__________________
Sold:
2007 Z06
2002 Viper GTS/ACR
2003 Z06
1965 FFR Cobra
2012 Nissan 370Z

ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.
Olddudesrule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2017, 05:53 PM   #4
Mando2776
 
Mando2776's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Northridge, CA
Posts: 374
If budget permits, I’d look into Coil-overs. I went from stock to Bcracing BR coilovers and couldn’t be happier, I can adjust ride height easily, and I can adjust for soft ride, or stiffer if I choose. Couldn’t be happier! I wanted to do lowering springs with bilstein. But the lack of adjustments, made me go with coilovers.
Mando2776 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2017, 12:55 AM   #5
626CammedSS
 
626CammedSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Baldiwn Park
Posts: 26
Thanks for the help guys
626CammedSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2017, 01:41 AM   #6
Bo White


 
Bo White's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Summit White 1SS
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 7,216
Coilovers dont ride too hot either.
Bo White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2017, 12:31 PM   #7
VR Baron
SoCal Camaro5 Race Team
 
VR Baron's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 VR 2SS RS M6
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SO CAL
Posts: 13,738
I went from Hotchkis springs and my fe4 shocks to Pedders supercars. The Hotchkis springs rode well, but still a stiffer spring ride. Comfortable other then bumps, and on bumps was a a bit bouncy as shocks at their limits I guess. I went to the coilovers to get a better ride, and adjustability and for autocross use.Once dialed in to your liking the ride is smother, more controlled(no bounce) even with the stiffer springs and valving. Can be softer then stock, but will get bouncy it more soft in the rear like springs do. If you look at bc single adjustable shocks read all the comments on this site. They can be soft but seem to be to bouncy in the rear if set softer. But note also that the coilovers on bumpy roads will show their stiff spring and valving and shorter travel. Takes awhile to set them up to your liking
__________________
Mods: Magnaflow 3" comp catback/Rotofab CAI/Apex Scoop/VMax T/B/ G.M. Blade Spoiler/SLP Splitter/ Forgestar cf10 wheels & Michelin Super Sport tires/JBA Shorty Headers/tune/ Ridetech coilovers/DSE swaybars /BMR cradle bushings, toe links and trailing arms/Stage 1 cam/ 3.91 gears-439/420 RWHP/TQ
VR Baron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2017, 12:14 PM   #8
BMR Sales



 
BMR Sales's Avatar
 
Drives: Race Car
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seffner, FL
Posts: 5,206
A couple of things to think about. The 5th Gens are a performance car which means they are made to ride stiffer than say an Impala. When you add performance parts (drop Springs, Coilovers Suspension Arms, etc) you will make the car even stiffer. A Coilover will give you more adjustability, but that doesn't guarantee a better ride!
BMR Sales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2017, 04:49 PM   #9
bayarea408
 
bayarea408's Avatar
 
Drives: 10' 2SS RS L99
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: CA
Posts: 611
when i bought the car i wanted it lowered but with a performance edge to the steering. I bought a pedders stage 2 suspension kit came with springs, front and rear sway bars.

If i were you and wanted to lower but not hurt its performance look into packages that are designed to be used with the right sway shock spring combo.

MOST of the time when i sit in a car with CO's they honestly all drive stiff and handle like crap because folks do not really know how to dial in dampers.
__________________
2010 2SS/RS -Huron Single Turbo Precision 76/75 cea
bayarea408 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2017, 05:03 PM   #10
Mando2776
 
Mando2776's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Northridge, CA
Posts: 374
After going from stock to coilovers. My ride performs and feels less stff then stock. I did dial in the rebound/dampening to the best settings i felt were perfect for me. There’s no going back. I am satisfied with my coilovers. Less harshness on Bumps. Steering feels the same. I’m using bcracing coilovers and have my settings at front 20 clicks from Soft.
Rears are set at 15 clicks from soft.
Mando2776 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2017, 05:31 AM   #11
626CammedSS
 
626CammedSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Baldiwn Park
Posts: 26
Im really looking into getting some now thanks
626CammedSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2017, 10:50 AM   #12
VR Baron
SoCal Camaro5 Race Team
 
VR Baron's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 VR 2SS RS M6
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SO CAL
Posts: 13,738
If you can swing it, get ridetech HQ’s. Appear to be best in ride quality
__________________
Mods: Magnaflow 3" comp catback/Rotofab CAI/Apex Scoop/VMax T/B/ G.M. Blade Spoiler/SLP Splitter/ Forgestar cf10 wheels & Michelin Super Sport tires/JBA Shorty Headers/tune/ Ridetech coilovers/DSE swaybars /BMR cradle bushings, toe links and trailing arms/Stage 1 cam/ 3.91 gears-439/420 RWHP/TQ
VR Baron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2017, 04:14 PM   #13
p.s.
 
Drives: 2014 v6 manual
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: upstate ny
Posts: 54
If you get coilovers make sure you get adjustable dampening. I wouldn't do coils again if my goal was to only drop and inch or inch and a half. Not worth the money imo. handling is probably better with coils vs drop springs but i've never had drop springs so i can't say for sure.

Id go air if i had to do it again and wanted to be low, at that point its for stance as I don't think any one is doing performance air ride that actually handles for our cars. I may be wrong though.
p.s. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2017, 08:59 PM   #14
bkevind
 
bkevind's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS RS 1LE
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Austin
Posts: 542
If you go with a spring/shock combo that is known to go well together on this platform, then that's usually a great way to go. No fuss, it just works (much like OEM but better). Too much of a drop is generally unproductive to handling, tire wear, bushing wear, etc.

For racing purposes, a huge plus to coilovers is the ability to corner balance a car precisely. For street, it's nice to be able to experiment with different heights.

Coilovers usually:
-reduce weight
-have less suspension travel
-have adjustable height
-have adjustable dampers

I've run the BC Racing BR series with pillow ball mounts and camber plates on a different platform. It worked well enough and was an affordable upgrade to that particular car. They definitely have less travel than OEM. Most of the time they can be fairly comfortable and decently controlled. Sharp bumps however were complete crap. They worked well enough on bumpy tracks with NT01R tires. If I went with BC racing again it would be the ER series (for the cheap option) or just go with really good stuff. But that's with road course focus with some streetability.

I've ran Bilstein PSS9 on an Audi, and they were STIFF as hell. Brutal. I also ran H&R coilovers (height adjustable only) on another Audi, and they were sublime. I've run Eibach/Bilstein Sport combo. Works very well, the Bils definitely are firm, but work very well when you're pushing hard. Been in tons of cars with a variety of stuff, from 5k/corner to stock springs and Konis. It's a bit easier to figure out the right gear if you have a specific focus - autocross or time trials or wheel to wheel racing or drag or whatever.

I think for most people (myself included) a well matched spring/shock combo is more than good enough. Cheap coilovers are not an upgrade to OEM on the street, with the exception of adjustable height. And maybe not an upgrade at the track either. My stock 1LE is better than a lot of aftermarket stuff I've experienced.
bkevind is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.