The joys of being Canadian

[Matster]

Originally Posted by Meltdownaverted

He's in Alberta no PST or HST here

Rub it in But hey with all that oil in ur backyard that's the least the gov can do.

[Caswell239]

The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!

[Cap'n Pete]

I've typically found UPS to be worse than FedEx for cross-border shipping. I've had some large/heavy items shipped by FedEx (full exhaust system, a transmission on a skid) and while the shipping ain't "cheap", the "surprise" brokerage fee after the fact (on top of the up front shipping cost) isn't as bad as UPS ... who RAPE YOU after the fact. I just bought a set of skis for my sled recently: $200 skis, $120 shipping (UPS) and THEN $90 brokerage fee upon delivery!!! So I paid $210 for shipping on $200 parts!!

[slededorilllia]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Pete

I've typically found UPS to be worse than FedEx for cross-border shipping. I've had some large/heavy items shipped by FedEx (full exhaust system, a transmission on a skid) and while the shipping ain't "cheap", the "surprise" brokerage fee after the fact (on top of the up front shipping cost) isn't as bad as UPS ... who RAPE YOU after the fact. I just bought a set of skis for my sled recently: $200 skis, $120 shipping (UPS) and THEN $90 brokerage fee upon delivery!!! So I paid $210 for shipping on $200 parts!!

hey is it cap'n pete from HCS?????

[dragon22]

Originally Posted by Caswell239

Don't get me wrong i love being Canadian. BUT!!! I ordered a blower package from Jannetty racing, came in four boxes. No duty or brokerage at the door, but just got 4 invoices for them. Total of 715$ Canadian in duty and brokerage! I already paid a lot for shipping in the first place! Man we get raped hard for parts crossing the boarder!!!

/endrant


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Wait a minute...they charged you duty? Aren't the parts made in North America? We're not supposed to have to pay duty anymore unless the parts are made outside of North America. I would argue that!

[Matster]

Originally Posted by Caswell239

The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!

Caswell if this is the case and you are a resident of Alberta, irrelevant of where the goods entered Canada you might be entitled to an HST rebate. Check out this website http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tp.../menu-eng.html.

From the CRA's website mentioned above.....

General rebates

There are various situations that entitle resident and non-resident individuals or businesses to a GST/HST rebate. In some cases, you don't have to be registered for the GST/HST. For instance, you may have paid the GST/HST in error on a non-taxable item, or you may have paid the HST on imported goods that will not be used or consumed in a participating province.

Check out the attached rebate form and good luck Be sure to post whether you are eligible and whether you get the HST back as this may be helpful to other members in Alberta.

[Motion427]

Originally Posted by dragon22

Wait a minute...they charged you duty? Aren't the parts made in North America? We're not supposed to have to pay duty anymore unless the parts are made outside of North America. I would argue that!

Yes,if the product is made in the USA,you would not need to pay for brokerage fees.
But you have to have the right paper work to be exempt.If you do not have the paper work,you pay the normal fees.
Even if it's not made in the USA,proper paper work does help with the Fees quite a bit.
We import from the US everyday.We use UPS,FED EX or ship to our warehouse in Calais,Me. (I'm from the East coast).Because we buy performance/4x4 parts on a daily basis,I use a customs broker based on the weight of the product and not tha value. UPS and FEDEX brokerage is based on the value of the product.
So a $6600.00US supercharger pkg, will not cost us a crazy amount of money to get it here to our Canadian customers.
Actually we would sell a Camaro supercharger(Whipple).If I use $6600.00US as an example again.I would sell it around $6800.00 CDN +HST or GST(depends on the province we ship it to)out the door at our shop.

Same here,we are 3 hours away from the border.It would not benefit me to drive a 6+ hour drive round trip to the border to pick up our parts which is at the border anyway,because we have a good broker to help us out to import or export products to and from the USA.

If you buy alot of products, look up a broker near you.Or shop around for a good Canadian side performance/4x4. It may be cheaper in the long run.

[Matster]

Originally Posted by Motion427

Yes,if the product is made in the USA,you would not need to pay for brokerage fees.
But you have to have the right paper work to be exempt.If you do not have the paper work,you pay the normal fees.
Even if it's not made in the USA,proper paper work does help with the Fees quite a bit.
We import from the US everyday.We use UPS,FED EX or ship to our warehouse in Calais,Me. (I'm from the East coast).Because we buy performance/4x4 parts on a daily basis,I use a customs broker based on the weight of the product and not tha value. UPS and FEDEX brokerage is based on the value of the product.
So a $6600.00US supercharger pkg, will not cost us a crazy amount of money to get it here to our Canadian customers.
Actually we would sell a Camaro supercharger(Whipple).If I use $6600.00US as an example again.I would sell it around $6800.00 CDN +HST or GST(depends on the province we ship it to)out the door at our shop.

Same here,we are 3 hours away from the border.It would not benefit me to drive a 6+ hour drive round trip to the border to pick up our parts which is at the border anyway,because we have a good broker to help us out to import or export products to and from the USA.

If you buy alot of products, look up a broker near you.Or shop around for a good Canadian side performance/4x4. It may be cheaper in the long run.

Hey Motion, Fellow NB'r here born and raised in Sussex now living in Ontario.

Your post is a little confusing so may be I can clarify this a bit.

Goods that are manufactured in North America that comply with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) rules of origin do indeed enter Canada duty free. Duty and brokerage fees are 2 different things, duty is collected by the broker and handed onto the Federal Government based on the value of the goods and Brokerage fees are charged by the carrier/broker for their services. Brokerage fees can be determined by any number of things and are negotiated rates between the broker and their customer. In your case it would appear you are paying brokerage fees based on the weight of the shipment.

Technically in order to receive the duty free benefits under the NAFTA, the importer must be in possession of a properly complete Certificate of Origin from the manufacturer. A simple statement on the commercial invoice "made in the U.S." is not sufficient but is often used on LVS (low value shipments) under $1,600.00 CAD. The NAFTA certificate can be a "one time" which would apply to one shipment and would identify the PO #, commercial invoice number or some other reference number specific to that one shipment. For large commercial importers that import a lot of product from one supplier throughout the year, they can request that the manufacturer complete a blanket certificate, this would itemized all products imported and can be issued for a period not exceeding 12 months.

The most common misconception is that "its made in the U.S. or Mexico" it therefore should be duty free. There is a set of origin rules as thick as an encyclopedia that lay out the rules on how and what must take place in order to qualify for NAFTA.

[willhe64]

I had my Supercharger drop shipped (for free from SCC!) to Summit Customs brokers at the border. They brought it through and shipped it to me. Total cost of tax brokerage and shipping was $275. No duty.

[Trackman]

Originally Posted by Caswell239

The tax your charged is decided by where your parts enter the country, they entered into Ontario so there for hst. I would have still bought if I had known up front most likely but man we get screwed up here! Just like the price of gas and price of vehicles!

I cross border shop all the time. I never have been charged HST when parts cross the border through a province that has HST/PST.
Scan and post your Fedex statement.

[mhoskins76]

Originally Posted by Trackman

I cross border shop all the time. I never have been charged HST when parts cross the border through a province that has HST/PST.
Scan and post your Fedex statement.

Well when you live close to the border...it is definitely a good idea to do so.

Unfortunately for the OP and myself we live at least a 10 hour drive one way to the border. So for us it just does not make sense to do that.

[Motion427]

Originally Posted by Matster

Hey Motion, Fellow NB'r here born and raised in Sussex now living in Ontario.

Your post is a little confusing so may be I can clarify this a bit.

Goods that are manufactured in North America that comply with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) rules of origin do indeed enter Canada duty free. Duty and brokerage fees are 2 different things, duty is collected by the broker and handed onto the Federal Government based on the value of the goods and Brokerage fees are charged by the carrier/broker for their services. Brokerage fees can be determined by any number of things and are negotiated rates between the broker and their customer. In your case it would appear you are paying brokerage fees based on the weight of the shipment.

Technically in order to receive the duty free benefits under the NAFTA, the importer must be in possession of a properly complete Certificate of Origin from the manufacturer. A simple statement on the commercial invoice "made in the U.S." is not sufficient but is often used on LVS (low value shipments) under $1,600.00 CAD. The NAFTA certificate can be a "one time" which would apply to one shipment and would identify the PO #, commercial invoice number or some other reference number specific to that one shipment. For large commercial importers that import a lot of product from one supplier throughout the year, they can request that the manufacturer complete a blanket certificate, this would itemized all products imported and can be issued for a period not exceeding 12 months.

The most common misconception is that "its made in the U.S. or Mexico" it therefore should be duty free. There is a set of origin rules as thick as an encyclopedia that lay out the rules on how and what must take place in order to qualify for NAFTA.

Thanks for correction.For a reason or another I was thinking "brokerage" when I should have wrote "duties".

But what matster wrote is correct.

You have a nice ride over there matster,keep up the good work.

[Cap'n Pete]

Originally Posted by slededorilllia

hey is it cap'n pete from HCS?????

Yup, same me! ... I like cars too!

[Thrillz]

You want to know what really ticks me off being Canadian. Paying a premium for products much more then our American counterparts when are dollar is close to par. Nothing like having to pay over 5k more for a Camaro when the car is built right here in my back yard. Rediculious