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Old 10-14-2023, 05:27 PM   #29
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I had a C7 Z06 and after having my Camaro for a year, I'd take a C7 Z06 over my ZL1 any day. I could swap my ZL1 for a Grand Sport and put some cash back in the bank.
Okay, okay, but you never said why.

Is it because it's lighter? Faster? Puts the power down better? Turns quicker? Feels more stable? Does it have more trunk space? Is it more appealing? The manual trans in that car is weird, too, if you don't get it with the A8 you get a seven speed manual, isn't that a bit too much shifting action on every drive?
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Old 10-14-2023, 05:28 PM   #30
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Well, that trunk is huge enough to fit the most upgraded of walkers.
I could never fish offshore in a C8 as i could never get all my stuff in the car. The C6 and 7 is it easy. My Yeti is not gonna fit in a C8 unless in the front seat,
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Old 10-14-2023, 05:48 PM   #31
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I had a C7 Z06 and after having my Camaro for a year, I'd take a C7 Z06 over my ZL1 any day. I could swap my ZL1 for a Grand Sport and put some cash back in the bank. The Corvette has more panache the Camaro has.
Just my opinion... but the car in your sig pic is a far nicer looking car then then C7 in the garage pic...

I do like the C7 in general, I'd get a C7 over the C8... but I just think the Camaro in general is a much nicer looking pony/muscle car then the C7. I guess that's why gm makes both... (Well not anymore). I'm not old enough to own a Corvette just yet though either... LOL...

I don't think the OP mentioned a C7 GrandSport or Z06 either... Just the standard C7.
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Old 10-14-2023, 06:10 PM   #32
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You have from now until death to find the right used C7. You have weeks, maybe months, to buy a new Camaro. I decided on the Camaro over other options for this reason alone.
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Old 10-14-2023, 07:02 PM   #33
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Hello Friends! I'm back after selling my 2016 2SS black metallic about 18 months ago.

(For some back info, my engine blew at 56,000 miles and was rebuilt by Chevrolet warranty.) Here's that thread:
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560229

I drove it another 15,000 miles and sold it during the height of the used car prices because my wife developed motion sickness while riding with a manual transmission.

I have owned 4 Camaros, and I'm a Camaro guy. I was planning on buying a C7 but I have seen the nitro yellow color on the Blazer, and it is spectacular, so now I'm thinking maybe I get a 2024 Camaro. I like the idea of getting the last model. I have not driven a C7 yet. I have driven my son's C6 and I really liked the better visibility, being lower to the ground and the lighter feeling.

Can I get some opinions? Are the nitro yellows going to be available or will they be so popular that they're not available? Would I need to order it?

Have any problems been addressed in the newer models like the "hot start" problem, etc.? I haven't been around this forum in a while so if someone can post any important links to threads, I would appreciate it.
Bottom line is: if you're a Corvette fan or scratching one off the bucket list - OK, but I wouldn't recommend the C7 vs the Camaro. I was amazed to find the Camaro platform had surpassed the flagship of Chevrolet. IMO GM put out the C7 with plans to give the good stuff to the C8s. There were lots of off-the-shelf options they could've offered on the C7 but didn't. Performance wise, the Camaro beats the Vette for thousands less and offers more features.
The LT1 is more fun with the 6M of Camaro vs the 7M of the Vette, the torque tube driveshaft adds some slack and vibration to the drivetrain, and I NEVER liked the 7M shifter - too sloppy.
Of the three 6th gens I've owned, never had an issue with any of them, bought the 2015 Stingray used with 13k miles on it and the cooling fan stopped working 2 months in, the fan is very noisy on the Vette vs the Camaro as are the fuel injectors, sounded like I had lifters going bad just idling.
But one thing I will give the Corvette is the DIC - HUD displays, more choices and useful info.
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Old 10-14-2023, 10:34 PM   #34
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Jus Cruisin, can you tell me why you would choose a C7 [Grand Sport] over the Camaro [2SS 1LE]? Why is it "not even close"?
I know you didn’t ask me but I literally just cross shopped these two cars. While shopping I found the grand sport to be out of my budget. If money wasn’t a concern, there is a 50/50 chance I’d be in the grand sport instead. At the end of the day, it’s quite a bit faster at tracks and definitely pulls a bit harder in a straight line due to its weight. It’s main downfalls however are I like the Camaro interior better, the recaros are nicer and the 6 speed in my 1le is amazing (didn’t know it came with a short throw shifter versus my previous non 1le!). Also buying new gave me a new track warranty whereas a used grand sport would have maybe given me one more year of warranty.

I think the gen 6 camaro is a better drivers car versus the c7 EXCEPT the grand sport is 98% as good. At the limit it’s a little scary when the grand sport loses grip versus the 6th gen Camaros which are very predictable/progressive. I drove stock and bolt on c7 z06’s and don’t like them. They felt overpowered. The grand sport feels the best out of the c7 lineup. That being said I wish the grand sport and ss1le each could have 50-100 more horsepower as they are capable of withstanding more power and not feeling overpowered.
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Old 10-14-2023, 11:40 PM   #35
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I know you didn’t ask me but I literally just cross shopped these two cars. While shopping I found the grand sport to be out of my budget. If money wasn’t a concern, there is a 50/50 chance I’d be in the grand sport instead. At the end of the day, it’s quite a bit faster at tracks and definitely pulls a bit harder in a straight line due to its weight. It’s main downfalls however are I like the Camaro interior better, the recaros are nicer and the 6 speed in my 1le is amazing (didn’t know it came with a short throw shifter versus my previous non 1le!). Also buying new gave me a new track warranty whereas a used grand sport would have maybe given me one more year of warranty.

I think the gen 6 camaro is a better drivers car versus the c7 EXCEPT the grand sport is 98% as good. At the limit it’s a little scary when the grand sport loses grip versus the 6th gen Camaros which are very predictable/progressive. I drove stock and bolt on c7 z06’s and don’t like them. They felt overpowered. The grand sport feels the best out of the c7 lineup. That being said I wish the grand sport and ss1le each could have 50-100 more horsepower as they are capable of withstanding more power and not feeling overpowered.
Thank you for the insight, I suspected the extra speed due to the lower weight mattered some. Being a fairly average driver, I appreciate the predictability of the Camaro when breaking traction, and I also like the Camaro's interior better, the Corvette cockpit favors the driver a bit too much for my taste. The compartment behind the screen is a nice touch, though.
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Old 10-15-2023, 02:18 AM   #36
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What caused the eng. to blow at 56k miles?
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Old 10-15-2023, 05:03 AM   #37
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Easy...... C7. Not even close.
You're gonna have to give more info than that.

As someone who owned a '16 C7 2LT M7 for 2.5 years and 20k miles and a '17 50th 'vert SS M6 for 3 years and 25k miles, I say it's VERY close.

The SS has 95% of the C7's power, but is a few hundred pounds lighter. Unless you drove them back to back, you'd think they are approx as fast as each other. The 7th gear in the C7 is great, iirc 75 MPH was something like 1300RPM. I remember 30+ MPG on the highway, too.

Driving feel the Camaro is a better daily driver. Getting in / out, a real consideration for those of us getting older, old injuries, nagging pains, is noticeably easier on the SS.

Visibility is a wash.

"Coolness" goes to the C7 (my $0.02).

The C7 has TONS of usable storage. You'll be shocked at how much stuff you can store under that hatch. The SS trunk is "ok", and you can store stuff in the back seat, but the weird ass shape of the opening, and high lip can be a pain.

Sound... believe it or not, I preferred the NPP of the SS. It just had a tiny bit more rasp / edge to it at the top of the band. Almost like a snarl. Loved it. I miss it dearly now.

C7 has a permanent targa roof, if you're into fresh air, don't discount that. You can get a sunroof on the SS but it's NOT the same, not even close. Why I chose a vert.

Do NOT get an A8 C7, could be Pandora's Box, a lot of them had issues.

I'm not a Chevy guy, or a C7 or Camaro guy, I'm just a Car Guy. I've had 5.0's, C7's, SS's and now drive something else.

Good luck, it'd be a hard choice for me, but I'd go Camaro in the end. I wanted to get into a ZL1 vert, but dealers wouldn't relent with the bullsh*t markups so I went a different direction
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Old 10-15-2023, 06:52 AM   #38
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Okay, okay, but you never said why.

Is it because it's lighter? Faster? Puts the power down better? Turns quicker? Feels more stable? Does it have more trunk space? Is it more appealing? The manual trans in that car is weird, too, if you don't get it with the A8 you get a seven speed manual, isn't that a bit too much shifting action on every drive?
You deleted the sentence in my quote that pretty much explains why for me. It's the feeling...

I've owned 8 Corvettes over the years. My first a 427 1969. They've all been autos. Plenty of handshaker cars and trucks in my past but bailed on them 30+ years ago with knee issues. I'm not into road racing. My horsing around was drag racing. So why the Corvettes? Just like 'em.

Just as easy/hard to get in and out of a C7 as my ZL1. I think the Camaro doors are bigger so they are harder to get out of in tight spaces.

And it's quicker bone stock per Car & Driver (2015 presser)
The Z06 sprinted through the benchmark 0-to-60-mph measure in just 2.95 seconds and that it annihilated the quarter-mile in an equally impressive 10.95 at 127 mph.

I never ran either to see what I get but my Z06 felt quicker to my butt dyno.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:20 AM   #39
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You deleted the sentence in my quote that pretty much explains why for me. It's the feeling...

I've owned 8 Corvettes over the years. My first a 427 1969. They've all been autos. Plenty of handshaker cars and trucks in my past but bailed on them 30+ years ago with knee issues. I'm not into road racing. My horsing around was drag racing. So why the Corvettes? Just like 'em.

Just as easy/hard to get in and out of a C7 as my ZL1. I think the Camaro doors are bigger so they are harder to get out of in tight spaces.

And it's quicker bone stock per Car & Driver (2015 presser)
The Z06 sprinted through the benchmark 0-to-60-mph measure in just 2.95 seconds and that it annihilated the quarter-mile in an equally impressive 10.95 at 127 mph.

I never ran either to see what I get but my Z06 felt quicker to my butt dyno.
Fair enough, thank you. My backspacing finger got a bit too heavy, but you really didn't give us much to go by, let's be honest

I guess I just wasn't born a Corvette guy and will never be one. The C6 is too raw for me, the C7 is just okay, the C8 isn't even a Corvette, it's a Euro car with a Ferrari-like screamer engine. Nothing wrong with any of them, though, and I understand your preference for the faster-than-SS C7, but I'll stick with the Camaro
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:43 AM   #40
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Now that it is cooler no more harsh shift. Kinda odd it went away. Only thing i can cry about is insane brake dust.
That's an easy fix that I already took care of. Buy PowerStop Z26 pads for your brakes, and say goodbye to that nasty black brake dust. If you have more than a couple thousand miles on your current rotors, I'd get the rotors turned or replace them before installing the new pads.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:56 AM   #41
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That's an easy fix that I already took care of. Buy PowerStop Z26 pads for your brakes, and say goodbye to that nasty black brake dust. If you have more than a couple thousand miles on your current rotors, I'd get the rotors turned or replace them before installing the new pads.
I need all new everything. Rotors are thin and got some groves. The dust is nuts as i gotta clean the wheels 3 times a week and i only drive 50 mile a week. But i will say this car sure does stop good.
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Old 10-15-2023, 10:46 AM   #42
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What caused the eng. to blow at 56k miles?
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