01-27-2010, 11:26 PM | #29 | |
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01-27-2010, 11:33 PM | #30 |
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The truth is that, people have to understand that you have to pay to play. If you do anything to a car, that causes it to malfunction, it is your responsibility to take care of the cost to repair it. A tune changes the parameters in which a car operates. Therefore, it can cause something to go wrong with your engine. If you want to get a tune, I would suggest using a reputable Tuner. Tuner being the key word. Not all speed shops have tuners that know what they are doing. If something happens to your car. Take it to your dealer and hope that it wasn't the tune that hurt it. |
01-27-2010, 11:39 PM | #31 |
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Here's a question: can they tell if you remove the ECM and replace it for warranty work?
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01-27-2010, 11:48 PM | #32 | |
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ECM's are tracked from factory and they know which serial number goes into which VIN on cars. |
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01-27-2010, 11:57 PM | #33 | |
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John's car comes with ECM 1. John buys ECM 2. John gets headers, exhaust, intake, and a tune on ECM 2. ECM 1 sits in the garage. John needs to visit the dealer. John reinstalls ECM 1. ECM 2 sits in the garage. ECM 1 came with the car. The dealer scans ECM 1. Will the dealer detect a problem with ECM 1 or the potentially warranty-voiding presence of ECM 2?
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01-28-2010, 12:02 AM | #34 | |
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This means, that if you switch back and forth between ECM, the small part that plays a role in this will be off from the actual car milage displayed in the OLS. Don't know if I explained that right. I always get flamed fortrying to explain this. But I'm not the GM engineer. That's just what I was told by one. |
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01-28-2010, 12:04 AM | #35 | |
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01-28-2010, 12:07 AM | #36 | |
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Possibly, possibly not, I don't know. If it were me, I just wouldn't do it unless I knew I could pay the damage. |
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01-28-2010, 12:30 AM | #37 |
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what does a tue do for the car? Im dumb about that stuff
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01-28-2010, 12:31 AM | #38 |
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sorry...a tune???
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01-28-2010, 12:35 AM | #39 |
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You're basically reprogramming the computer that monitors all of your sensors and the functions of your car. If you do it correctly, the car is faster and more efficient. If you do it incorrectly, stuff breaks.
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01-28-2010, 07:21 AM | #40 | |
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there are write-ups in the diablo GM forum that tells you how to do it... for the LT headers tho, you'll need to get a quick custom tune whipped up in order to disable the rear O2 trouble codes... any diablosport CMR tune like myself or Ted Jannetty can do that for ya... you can also have a more complete custom tune done (all via email and data logs) by either of us as well. |
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01-28-2010, 08:46 AM | #41 | |
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I personally think it would be much more ethical to just put a disclaimer on the program package that says "Use of this product MAY void your powertrain warranty" and that makes anything a tuner does kosher in my book. Then it becomes just like cigarettes or alchohol...we know there are risks in using either product...and we decide whether we want to take the risk or not. It is guarantees that really don't mean anything (not saying Trifecta's is this way...just a statement) that really irk me. It's like the roadside sign advertising a $20/month healthcare plan...sure it's a "healthcare plan" but try and find someone to honor it! |
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01-28-2010, 08:49 AM | #42 | |
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Thank you and dragoneye for trying to open people's eyes to reality. You have to pay to play and if you modify your car, you shouldn't expect me or any other GM owner to pay for the repairs related to your modified item. In reality, that is what happens. |
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