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Mr CLuTcH · 07-04-2012, 07:52 PM

The two muscle-motors of the moment, head-to-head. Hard to imagine a factory warranted Mustang with 670hp, or a State-subsidised 580hp Camaro!

spyderbuddy · 07-04-2012, 08:09 PM

I guess all the ZL1 Guys will have to go get them a Mustang now.

Bob Cosby · 07-04-2012, 08:58 PM

I thought it was a pretty good review. He obviously believes the ZL1 is more sophisticated, better ride, easier to drive. And he said he ran 2 seconds faster on the road course.

At the same time, he was grinning ear to ear while driving the GT500 - especially around the track.

To quote my buddy LOWDOWN.... Pro Tour VS Pro Street.

Monsterpost · 07-04-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

I thought it was a pretty good review. He obviously believes the ZL1 is more sophisticated, better ride, easier to drive. And he said he ran 2 seconds faster on the road course.

At the same time, he was grinning ear to ear while driving the GT500 - especially around the track.

To quote my buddy LOWDOWN.... Pro Tour VS Pro Street.

My take as well. The track looked like it was very short and lots of corners; something the zl1 should excel at. Pick your car and have fun.

evolve · 07-04-2012, 10:31 PM

Good review imo. Both great cars!

derklug · 07-05-2012, 06:19 AM

It's all about the smiles per miles, I think the last EPA rating was 1,107 to 1,106.

eolson · 07-05-2012, 03:33 PM

Well after reading the major car magazine comparisons, The GT500 had every bit as fast of times on the road courses, so I guess LoWDown still likes pulling minor articles that are bias towards the ZL1. Yes it is more sophisticated, yes it is easier to drive, yes it feels more like you're in control, but it is not faster on road courses.

Even with 57%/43% weight ratio, fixed axel, thinner tires, and a lot less electronic ride assistance, the car is very fast for a sports coupe, just like the ZL1 is.

So next year the ZL1 will get more power, and the GT500 will get brake ducting, and they will be put neck and neck again. The after market has already provided the ZL1 with more power, and also has already provided the GT500 with no fade breaking solutions, much better suspension, and wider tires, so it's really up to GM and Ford to adjust to what is already being easily improved on with these cars. Erik

ChrisBlair · 07-06-2012, 03:32 PM

I guess the lucky owners of GT500s and ZL-1s have something to worry about...Ford...Chevy...Ford...Chevy.

I thought it was a stupid rivalry 25 years ago when I was 15. Hardly anyone plays at the level of the best from either maker.

I'd own either car in a heartbeat, but I do think Ford took some styling miscues on the lastest gen Mustang. Last gen was awesome, Frank Bullit -esque. This gen is OK but I think the car lost a lot of visual grace. The Zl-1 is too damn heavy

07-04-2012, 08:09 PM	#2
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07-04-2012, 10:31 PM	#5
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	Good review imo. Both great cars! __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

07-05-2012, 06:19 AM	#6
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	It's all about the smiles per miles, I think the last EPA rating was 1,107 to 1,106. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

07-05-2012, 03:33 PM	#7
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	Well after reading the major car magazine comparisons, The GT500 had every bit as fast of times on the road courses, so I guess LoWDown still likes pulling minor articles that are bias towards the ZL1. Yes it is more sophisticated, yes it is easier to drive, yes it feels more like you're in control, but it is not faster on road courses. Even with 57%/43% weight ratio, fixed axel, thinner tires, and a lot less electronic ride assistance, the car is very fast for a sports coupe, just like the ZL1 is. So next year the ZL1 will get more power, and the GT500 will get brake ducting, and they will be put neck and neck again. The after market has already provided the ZL1 with more power, and also has already provided the GT500 with no fade breaking solutions, much better suspension, and wider tires, so it's really up to GM and Ford to adjust to what is already being easily improved on with these cars. Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

07-06-2012, 03:32 PM	#8
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	I guess the lucky owners of GT500s and ZL-1s have something to worry about...Ford...Chevy...Ford...Chevy. I thought it was a stupid rivalry 25 years ago when I was 15. Hardly anyone plays at the level of the best from either maker. I'd own either car in a heartbeat, but I do think Ford took some styling miscues on the lastest gen Mustang. Last gen was awesome, Frank Bullit -esque. This gen is OK but I think the car lost a lot of visual grace. The Zl-1 is too damn heavy __________________

07-04-2012, 08:58 PM	#3
Bob Cosby Drives: 2010 Vette Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 572	I thought it was a pretty good review. He obviously believes the ZL1 is more sophisticated, better ride, easier to drive. And he said he ran 2 seconds faster on the road course. At the same time, he was grinning ear to ear while driving the GT500 - especially around the track. To quote my buddy LOWDOWN.... Pro Tour VS Pro Street.