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bcguy · 09-09-2012, 12:00 PM

So I was told we do not need a roll cage for the newer cars as they have way more saftey features built in to run under 11.5 by some Edmonton speed shop guys. The tech at the drags here has not heard of this. Can anyone chime in on this quickly. They are letting me run but would like to know

Supercharged SS · 09-09-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bcguy

So I was told we do not need a roll cage for the newer cars as they have way more saftey features built in to run under 11.5 by some Edmonton speed shop guys. The tech at the drags here has not heard of this. Can anyone chime in on this quickly. They are letting me run but would like to know

1000000% wrong

Saftey rules go by ET. Not anything else.

11.49-10.0 is a 5 point roll bar

bcguy · 09-09-2012, 12:08 PM

Ok is that and the driveshaft hoop the only changes I have to make

Turbo99 · 09-09-2012, 12:09 PM

a Jacket and harness also.

Supercharged SS · 09-09-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bcguy

Ok is that and the driveshaft hoop the only changes I have to make

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

a Jacket and harness also.

Usually that's all they'll check. But there is a list of stuff. IE Trans blanket, metal valve stems, crap like that.

The big ones are helmet, jacket, 5 point harness and bar, and a loop.

Motion427 · 09-09-2012, 12:30 PM

The only thing that I find that is strange at our track is they let some of the Late model Corvette's run's 10.xx without any roll bar.They claim that it has one at the factory of some sort.
Other than that, the safety equipment is by ET.

SGOS252382 · 09-09-2012, 12:46 PM

Some tracks seem to bend the rules or look the other way for some newer cars.

I've watched newer Vettes, Vipers, Porsche Turbos, etc (no roll bars) run faster than 11:50 and they just line back in the staging lanes.

Then a guy in an LT1 Camaro runs 11.49 and the track officials jump all over him.

AngelSpeedFreak · 09-09-2012, 01:59 PM

The speed shop guys sound like they have no idea what they are talking about. They might just be letting you know that your local track doesnt enforce the rules very hard? There are a few cars around me that run in the 10's every TnT with no cage, but thats just because they havent been paying enough attention.

Supercharged SS · 09-09-2012, 02:14 PM

Honestly, who cares what the track will or won't enforce. If I was going that fast I would want a roll bar for my own protection!! The rules are put in place to save your ass. If the track looks the other way and you fail to have all the requirements needed for your ET you're only screwing yourself.

Motion427 · 09-09-2012, 02:54 PM

Jamie,did you and the gang ran the cars at the track rental this weekend?

SGOS252382 · 09-09-2012, 03:10 PM

I've seen similar situations with helmets. People running newer cars seem to get by the helmet rule also.

I hate to say it, but I'm one of them. I was allowed to run all day without wearing a helmet. I was running in the 12s.
Sometimes its hot and my head doesn't fit (6'4") so I don't like wearing it.

My friend with an older model TA was told he must have a helmet to run and he was running in the 13s. I actually let him borrow my helmet that day while we were at the track.

Supercharged SS · 09-09-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Motion427

Jamie,did you and the gang ran the cars at the track rental this weekend?

Yeah, we all did. No records. The weather was junk. The DA was in the mid 2000's the entire day.

I did learn that my car will still go 10.1 running on 11 psi and shifting at 6200!!

Problem is I figured that all out at the end of the day.:( The only good news was that it was going 109.5mph in the 1/8th again.

She's all tweaked back out and I'll be traveling down to Cecil County Maryland, which is faster than Atco, on the 22nd of Sept. Hopefully it does a bit better.

My blower is going to get swapped out soon so I need to milk this for all it's worth!!

Turbo99 · 09-09-2012, 03:56 PM

Damn I am working just down from Cecil right now but I will be on nights by then, I wish I could meet ya'll over there, that track hooks too!!

Supercharged SS · 09-09-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

Damn I am working just down from Cecil right now but I will be on nights by then, I wish I could meet ya'll over there, that track hooks too!!

There is an open test and tune that Friday during the day then on Saturday we'll have the Grand National running in the East Coast Buick Nationals.

09-09-2012, 12:00 PM	#1
bcguy bcguy Drives: 2011 ss/rs m6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: british columbia canada Posts: 507	Racing rules for newer cars So I was told we do not need a roll cage for the newer cars as they have way more saftey features built in to run under 11.5 by some Edmonton speed shop guys. The tech at the drags here has not heard of this. Can anyone chime in on this quickly. They are letting me run but would like to know __________________ Agp 62/66 ,lsx 427. , Callie's ,diamond ,all pro ,American racing ,I'ds130s,102 intake and throttle body,etc .fore triple , Turbo 400 level 5 , b and m pro , dss carbon fiber , dss ford 9 inch with strange pumpkin,3.73 ratio,1400 hp axels,boost and air fuel pillar guages. Weld rts 17x10 and 17x4.5 with m and h drag radials and skinnys

09-09-2012, 12:08 PM	#3
bcguy bcguy Drives: 2011 ss/rs m6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: british columbia canada Posts: 507	Ok is that and the driveshaft hoop the only changes I have to make __________________ Agp 62/66 ,lsx 427. , Callie's ,diamond ,all pro ,American racing ,I'ds130s,102 intake and throttle body,etc .fore triple , Turbo 400 level 5 , b and m pro , dss carbon fiber , dss ford 9 inch with strange pumpkin,3.73 ratio,1400 hp axels,boost and air fuel pillar guages. Weld rts 17x10 and 17x4.5 with m and h drag radials and skinnys

09-09-2012, 12:09 PM	#4
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	a Jacket and harness also. __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

09-09-2012, 01:59 PM	#8
AngelSpeedFreak Most hated in NM.... Drives: Sold the 6POINT2, went to a 50THZ06 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,904	The speed shop guys sound like they have no idea what they are talking about. They might just be letting you know that your local track doesnt enforce the rules very hard? There are a few cars around me that run in the 10's every TnT with no cage, but thats just because they havent been paying enough attention. __________________

09-09-2012, 03:56 PM	#13
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	Damn I am working just down from Cecil right now but I will be on nights by then, I wish I could meet ya'll over there, that track hooks too!! __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

09-09-2012, 12:30 PM	#6
Motion427 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Red Jewel L99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NB,Canada Posts: 834	The only thing that I find that is strange at our track is they let some of the Late model Corvette's run's 10.xx without any roll bar.They claim that it has one at the factory of some sort. Other than that, the safety equipment is by ET.

09-09-2012, 12:46 PM	#7
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	Some tracks seem to bend the rules or look the other way for some newer cars. I've watched newer Vettes, Vipers, Porsche Turbos, etc (no roll bars) run faster than 11:50 and they just line back in the staging lanes. Then a guy in an LT1 Camaro runs 11.49 and the track officials jump all over him.

09-09-2012, 02:14 PM	#9
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	Honestly, who cares what the track will or won't enforce. If I was going that fast I would want a roll bar for my own protection!! The rules are put in place to save your ass. If the track looks the other way and you fail to have all the requirements needed for your ET you're only screwing yourself.

09-09-2012, 02:54 PM	#10
Motion427 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Red Jewel L99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NB,Canada Posts: 834	Jamie,did you and the gang ran the cars at the track rental this weekend?

09-09-2012, 03:10 PM	#11
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	I've seen similar situations with helmets. People running newer cars seem to get by the helmet rule also. I hate to say it, but I'm one of them. I was allowed to run all day without wearing a helmet. I was running in the 12s. Sometimes its hot and my head doesn't fit (6'4") so I don't like wearing it. My friend with an older model TA was told he must have a helmet to run and he was running in the 13s. I actually let him borrow my helmet that day while we were at the track.