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Old 02-15-2015, 07:40 PM   #43
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I think you are referring to the Al O. interview. He never said no 4 cylinder. That was just interpreted that way by a lot of interwebz warriors and repeated over and over.

Also, if I were simply speculating, I'd say it was speculation.
It's speculation because Ford put a turbo 4 in the Mustang, so now Chevrolet has to follow suit (because on the interwebz GM always follows Ford).

But yeah, don't listen to Al say "We're not following Ford" when asked about a 4 cylinder Camaro. Instead, listen to forum trolls. They are "in the know".

Logically though, Chevy needs to put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro because of the national shortage of... cylinder volume or something.
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Old 02-15-2015, 07:53 PM   #44
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It's speculation because Ford put a turbo 4 in the Mustang, so now Chevrolet has to follow suit (because on the interwebz GM always follows Ford).

But yeah, don't listen to Al say "We're not following Ford" when asked about a 4 cylinder Camaro. Instead, listen to forum trolls. They are "in the know".

Logically though, Chevy needs to put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro because of the national shortage of... cylinder volume or something.
Too bad that's not what he said.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:24 PM   #45
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I looked for the video or article and can't find it. Anyone have a link?
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:39 PM   #46
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It's speculation because Ford put a turbo 4 in the Mustang, so now Chevrolet has to follow suit (because on the interwebz GM always follows Ford).

But yeah, don't listen to Al say "We're not following Ford" when asked about a 4 cylinder Camaro. Instead, listen to forum trolls. They are "in the know".

Logically though, Chevy needs to put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro because of the national shortage of... cylinder volume or something.
Al O. didn't say no 4 cylinder. His comments to a specific question were taken out of context. The Camaro will have a 2.0T. What appears to be different than Mustang is that the four will be standard and the LGX V6 will be an option, in apparent reverse order of Mustang - which has a carryover V6 as standard and the EB2.3 optional..
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:22 PM   #47
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Link: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/11/...four-cylinder/

'According to AutoGuide, a four cylinder engine option will not find its way under the hood of the next Camaro, at least not if Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser has anything to do with it.
“We’re not following Ford”, Oppenheiser told AG during the 2013 SEMA show. “As long as they’ll pay me to be the chief engineer, I’m going to fight for every horsepower I can and every cylinder I can,” he said.'

Trolls be trollin'. Good thing Al's still chief engineer.

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GM Authority: http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevr...o/2016-camaro/

"Specifications
Full specs TBA.
Powertrain
The 2016 Camaro can offer any of following engines:
2.0-liter turbocharged I4 LTG (discounted by Camaro chief engineer)
3.6-liter naturally aspirated V6 LFX
3.6-liter twin turbo V6 LF3
New 6.2-liter naturally aspirated V8 Small Block LT1 (LS1 success)
New 6.2-liter supercharged V8 Small Block LT5
New naturally-aspirated V8 Small Block (LS7 successor)
All engines will be direct injected and feature Variable Valve Timing, among other features."

Torque News: http://www.torquenews.com/106/new-lo...-power-figures

"The 4-Cylinder Question
The 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost is powered by a 2.3L turbocharged 4-cylinder that will offer 310 horsepower, 320lb-ft of torque and likely the best fuel economy by a muscle car ever. Some insist that since Ford is introducing a turbocharged 4-cylinder Mustang, General Motors will roll out a Camaro with a similar turbocharged engine. However, GM officials have stated that there would not be a 4-cylinder Camaro in the near future – and I’m inclined to buy the comments of the folks calling the shot before I buy the rumors."

And of course, nobody who keeps calling for a 4 cylinder Camaro ever says why they think there will be one. They just "know", and condescendingly call out everyone else.

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Old 02-15-2015, 09:31 PM   #48
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There's a difference between saying he will fight for every cylinder and saying there will not be a 4 cylinder turbo.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:35 PM   #49
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Link: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/11/...four-cylinder/

'According to AutoGuide, a four cylinder engine option will not find its way under the hood of the next Camaro, at least not if Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser has anything to do with it.
“We’re not following Ford”, Oppenheiser told AG during the 2013 SEMA show. “As long as they’ll pay me to be the chief engineer, I’m going to fight for every horsepower I can and every cylinder I can,” he said.'

Trolls be trollin'. Good thing Al's still chief engineer.

Edit - Some other thoughts:

GM Authority: http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevr...o/2016-camaro/



"Specifications
Full specs TBA.
Powertrain
The 2016 Camaro can offer any of following engines:
2.0-liter turbocharged I4 LTG (discounted by Camaro chief engineer)
3.6-liter naturally aspirated V6 LFX
3.6-liter twin turbo V6 LF3
New 6.2-liter naturally aspirated V8 Small Block LT1 (LS1 success)
New 6.2-liter supercharged V8 Small Block LT5
New naturally-aspirated V8 Small Block (LS7 successor)
All engines will be direct injected and feature Variable Valve Timing, among other features."

Torque News: http://www.torquenews.com/106/new-lo...-power-figures

"The 4-Cylinder Question
The 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost is powered by a 2.3L turbocharged 4-cylinder that will offer 310 horsepower, 320lb-ft of torque and likely the best fuel economy by a muscle car ever. Some insist that since Ford is introducing a turbocharged 4-cylinder Mustang, General Motors will roll out a Camaro with a similar turbocharged engine. However, GM officials have stated that there would not be a 4-cylinder Camaro in the near future – and I’m inclined to buy the comments of the folks calling the shot before I buy the rumors."

And of course, nobody who keeps calling for a 4 cylinder Camaro ever says why they think there will be one. They just "know", and condescendingly call out everyone else.
I can post articles too...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/08/...back-on-track/

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364951
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:36 PM   #50
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There's a difference between saying he will fight for every cylinder and saying there will not be a 4 cylinder turbo.
There's also a difference in what Al wants and what GM corporate orders him to do.
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:09 PM   #51
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If Camaro is going international, a 2.0T will be a must.
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:32 AM   #52
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Engine choices

So according to autocar the TTV6 is still a possibility. Goes back to what I said earlier. A T4 base engine. A TTV6 middle engine detuned to the 375-400 hp range. And a 450 hp V8. Sounds like a nice selection. Until the Z cars are released atleast. That leaves the LT4 for the ZL1. And hopefully a new LS7 replacement down the road for the next Z/28.

Which leads me to my next question. What is Wixom doing these days? With the end of the handbuilt LS motors, what are they up to?
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:34 AM   #53
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If Camaro is going international, a 2.0T will be a must.
wh???y in many countries only the ss is being sold, with taxes shipping etc the price gap between a v6 and a v8 its not that much, at least this hipped in Latin america, at the end you only can get 3 camaros from GM, fully loaded the 2SS A6, a HPE 650 Henesey, and a tuned ZL1
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:38 AM   #54
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wh???y in many countries only the ss is being sold, with taxes shipping etc the price gap between a v6 and a v8 its not that much, at least this hipped in Latin america, at the end you only can get 3 camaros from GM, fully loaded the 2SS A6, a HPE 650 Henesey, and a tuned ZL1
Many countries tax according to engine displacement.
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So according to autocar the TTV6 is still a possibility.
According to what I've heard it's not.
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I would surprised if GM did a 7 liter engine again, especially just for the Camaro.
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