05-17-2020, 06:47 AM | #1 |
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Anyone using cam motion Titan 3?
I’m looking into doing a cam swap for my ls3 bolt on car. Just a weekend toy. I’m after low idle chop with decent gains. I’ve talked to TSP and GPI about their packages and both have been very helpful, but I don’t think a cam with maximum duration and/or lift is what I’m after.
Here’s the Titan specs Duration - 227/237 Lift - .621/.604 Lobe separation - 113 Intake center line - 109.5
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05-17-2020, 07:25 AM | #2 |
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Why not contact btr and tell them exactly what you want they custom grind cams and hit the top of the mark for cam design knowledge.
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05-17-2020, 07:31 AM | #3 | |
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Did you run that blower cam any before you added the Whipple?
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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05-17-2020, 07:43 AM | #4 |
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Er...GPI sells four different cam lines, SS1-4, why not just pick a smaller one?
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05-17-2020, 07:49 AM | #5 | |
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This would be true with Texas speed though their stage 2 or 3 is definitely in the running. Just don’t want to be kicking myself after the job is done
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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05-17-2020, 08:28 AM | #6 |
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I would still change springs out 20-25 k for insurance.
My previous 5th gen was a cam motion 226/236. .629/.629 and I was recommended to change springs at that interval. That Titan cam is similar
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05-17-2020, 08:36 AM | #7 | |
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Still wouldn’t want a high idle though
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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05-17-2020, 09:18 AM | #8 |
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I've got 32k on my springs right now and I'm running the cam TSP puts in most NA race builds.
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05-17-2020, 09:27 AM | #9 | |
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I’m just uneasy about running max lift and duration
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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05-17-2020, 10:00 AM | #10 |
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Send it! Like you even said, you only put on 2k a year.
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05-17-2020, 10:10 AM | #11 |
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Anything over .600 seems to be taxing on springs and they will need to be replaced. I didn't run this cam before i had the whipple. I was on the stock cam last year with the whipple. I don't like the cookie cutter cams but there is only so much you can do, unfortunately you can't have the best of all worlds with a can.
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05-17-2020, 10:24 AM | #12 |
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Way more than lift and duration involved.Different cam lobes like (EPS) and ramp rates can be easier on the the springs.. Also lighter Ferrera valves can help reduce stress on valve springs. Have to look at the whole set up
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05-17-2020, 10:24 AM | #13 |
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Words to live by Rupertpupkin!
If I lean that way I really like the chop of the cam motion Titan king but it’s hard to go by you tube vids and I don’t have much performance data like tsp and gpi provide
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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05-17-2020, 10:27 AM | #14 |
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Agreed. Has anyone checked spring rates after 30k miles? Or is the main concern complete failure
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Texas speed F-35 cam, rollmaster timing set, melling hp pump, ls2 chain damper, fluid damper 25% under drive, Che rocker bushings, tsp .660 lift valve springs, BBK CAI Amzoil filter with Phastek ww relocation and scoop, Gmpp axle back, Speed engineering 1 7/8" LT's no cats, Peak speed shop ported tb, NGK tr6, MSD wires, Amsoil Zrod wix, heritage grill, 1.25" BMR springs, MRR 228, Nitto Nt05,dyno tuned by complete street performance, elite eng catch can, clean side separator, Hurst shifter, Zl1 addon wickerbill
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