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h2oplay · 10-23-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by midnighter

I've never ground 2nd gear but I did bake some clutch learning to power brake/ peel out in a manual for the first time in this car.

Refrain from using the brake for burnouts as it will break the clutches in the LSD, get a line lock....

h2oplay · 10-23-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by '11CamaroLS

i would like to know what we can do also, i have never felt an actual grind going into second, but i know that it just doesnt feel good going into second at higher rpms. my problem i have is sometimes it just wont go into first. its like it goes a little bit in but not all the way. so i put it back to netural and try again, and most time it takes more then 3 tries to get it into 1st or i say screw it and throw it into second to take off in. If im not in a hurry cause im at a light when i put it into netural i pump the clutch a few times, and it does seem to help, or maybe its just a coincidence or just needed a break before i try again lol i dont know. its done that i think most the time ive owned this car, so it may be a clutch issue more then a tranny.

either way the tranny for sure is the weak link here for manuals. i mean freaking toyotas use the ay6 lol i think with all the factory goodies we got like IRS, and LSD they would give us a better tranny lol.

Sounds like the ideal g slave is for you, not enough fluid for proper disengagement. get the gto res too, I think it was about 15 bucks.

smoke1lt · 10-23-2012, 02:46 PM

My 60' times are 1.9xx ,clutch is holding up so far, i have smoked it a few times though.But yes the big problem with mine is 1st to 2nd shift.Trying to shift mine from 1st to 2nd under 9# of boost at 7,000 rpms is not good,i have been shifting mine just over 6k rpm and shifting slow losing alot of time.Will be watching to see if the new synchro's help.

CamaroV6 · 10-23-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

As I contemplate the performance future of my Camaro, I keep coming back to one problem.

The manual transmission on our 5th gen Camaros just is not up to the job.

Here is a fact for you, the stock tranny on these cars, is UNDER rated for the power output of the LLT.

All the M6 cars, except maybe the newest 2012s and 13s with the carbon syncros, ALL grind 1st to 2nd gear. If yours doesn't grind, you probably just cannot shift fast enough.

Any more power we make, generates more of a problem. The limit is right about what we can make with bolt ons.

All the m6 Forced Induction guys are having to replace their clutches. Clutch, I can understand, that is something that will need to be upgraded on every heavily modded car.

So what is the solution? A built tranny?

In addition, our gear ratios SUCK! 1st gear has a 4.48 ratio! The SS on the other hand has a 3.0! 4.48 is just too damn high! It makes the car a nightmare to launch and I have yet to see ANY M6 car pull better than a 2.0 60'. In fact, has any car done better than my 2.0? Which was on stock tires...

Help me out here people! How do we solve these problems?

Easy fix.....JET ENGINE!!!

Dave Coyle · 10-23-2012, 03:51 PM

Convert it over to and automatic, will solve all your problems!!! Easier to launch, easier on ALL your other parts and more consistant!!!

hunterv6 · 10-23-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Coyle

Convert it over to and automatic, will solve all your problems!!! Easier to launch, easier on ALL your other parts and more consistant!!!

And lose the fun factor no thanks

hunterv6 · 10-23-2012, 05:34 PM

.[/QUOTE] Flywheel and clutch are great but they don't solve the tranny problem unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

They don't but that not why I asked. Since I will be replacing them transmission would be out of car so why not try to stop the grind.

twmotox · 10-23-2012, 07:09 PM

Im sure someone will be coming up with an adapter plate to install the ss m6 into the v6

DarkneSS · 10-23-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterv6

And lose the fun factor no thanks

Word auto is indeed the better choice for drag racing but even with FI my car will never be a drag specific car.

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Originally Posted by hunterv6

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Flywheel and clutch are great but they don't solve the tranny problem unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

They don't but that not why I asked. Since I will be replacing them transmission would be out of car so why not try to stop the grind.[/QUOTE]

My bad read that wrong.

DarkneSS · 10-23-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by twmotox

Im sure someone will be coming up with an adapter plate to install the ss m6 into the v6

That would work...is it possible?

Yellow_Glide · 10-23-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twmotox

Im sure someone will be coming up with an adapter plate to install the ss m6 into the v6

If the input shafts are the same thn it's a fairly straight forward deal.

rtcat600man · 10-24-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Coyle

Convert it over to and automatic, will solve all your problems!!! Easier to launch, easier on ALL your other parts and more consistant!!!

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h2oplay · 10-24-2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by twmotox

Im sure someone will be coming up with an adapter plate to install the ss m6 into the v6

Jay Leno's v6 turbo has a tremec, not sure how they pulled it off.

SIXJAK · 10-24-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by h2oplay

Jay Leno's v6 turbo has a tremec, not sure how they pulled it off.

Hmmm did not know that.

10-23-2012, 02:46 PM	#17
smoke1lt Drives: 2011 1lt/rs/sim Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pa Posts: 372	My 60' times are 1.9xx ,clutch is holding up so far, i have smoked it a few times though.But yes the big problem with mine is 1st to 2nd shift.Trying to shift mine from 1st to 2nd under 9# of boost at 7,000 rpms is not good,i have been shifting mine just over 6k rpm and shifting slow losing alot of time.Will be watching to see if the new synchro's help. __________________ RX-SUPERCHARGED/RX SUPER CHILLER/RX TB/RX PORTED IM/BLACK ICE-OLATER/BBK LT HEADERS/HFC/ARK-DTS CATBACK/EIBACH SPRINGS AND SWAYBARS/ORION SUBS AND AMPS...next mods RX od pulley ,3.91 gears

10-23-2012, 03:51 PM	#19
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10-23-2012, 05:34 PM	#21
hunterv6 Always bet on Black Drives: 2011 turbo LS, 2012 f 150, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Concord Nc Posts: 1,983	.[/QUOTE] Flywheel and clutch are great but they don't solve the tranny problem unfortunately.[/QUOTE] They don't but that not why I asked. Since I will be replacing them transmission would be out of car so why not try to stop the grind. __________________

10-23-2012, 07:09 PM	#22
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