2016 NFL predicition thread

[sherob]

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

..., but ATL gave them the opportunity to tie the game by ridiculous play calls and poor clock management.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

I'm going to make this really simple for you. With 17 minutes left in the game ATL has a 25 point lead. They are going to get the ball 5 more times before the conclusion of regualtion.

If they run the ball 15 times, and take 40 seconds off the clock each play, even if they don't get ONE first down, all they need to do is not turn the ball over. ATL had the fewest fumbles by running backs in the league this year. They know how to hold on to the ball. This runs 10 minutes and 40 seconds off the clock. ATL actually only had six minutes and 50 seconds of runoff.

Atlanta only ran 4 running plays during this time frame. They averaged 5 yards per carry during the game. If they run the ball they win 99% of the time.

On the PATS final drive during regulation, they started with 3 minutes and 51 seconds. Had ATL managed the clock, the ball and the game properly, by running the ball, NE gets it back with 1 second.

The PATS played excellent in the fourth quarter, but ATL gave them the opportunity to tie the game by ridiculous play calls and poor clock management.

Joe gets a bonus 10 pts today because that is exactly right. I have no idea why they moved away from the run, or even a play action on first down when the Pats knew they were going to run. Great first half for ATL, second half, the Offensive Coord decided to take a nap.

[sherob]

... no, he already boarded the plane for San Francisco.

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Lets go with what Shanahan did though. Stay super aggressive, throw the ball down the field.

With 4:40 seconds left on the clock, ATL is 1st and 10 at the NE 22. This is a 39 yard field goal. Matt Bryant was 34 of 37 kicking FG's this season. That's 91.9%. Two of these misses were outside 50 yards. His long was from 59.

ATL runs the ball for 1 yard on first down. Burn 40 seconds off the clock, do the same thing on second and third down. Even if they don't gain any yards, the clock is now down to 2:40 seconds. Kick the FG to go up by 11.

The PATS final drive took 2 minutes and 50 seconds to score 8 points. They don't have enough time to complete this drive if they get the ball with 2:40.

The Patriots played a PERFECT fourth quarter, there is no denying that, however ATL allowed them the time to do this, when they didn't have to.

That's why I say......

WORST PLAY CALLING EVER

[Kenny Camaro]

Didn't the Falcons turn the ball over on a run? Wasn't the turnover that basically turned the game in the Patriots favor a fumble on a running play? Wow, maybe your run ends up in a fumble. Or how bout this, Patriots call time out? Or there a holding call,wait, there was a holding call. Or the kicker misses the field goal attempt, he has missed a kick in the past, correct? Or is he the only kicker in league history to never miss a kick? Maybe this could have happened, the center executes a block, giving Ryan time to hit Jones in the enzone for a touchdown. Execute, execute, execute. The Patriots did, the Falcons did not. It's very simple.
" WORST EXECUTION EVER "

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

Didn't the Falcons turn the ball over on a run? Wasn't the turnover that basically turned the game in the Patriots favor a fumble on a running play? Wow, maybe your run ends up in a fumble. Or how bout this, Patriots call time out? Or there a holding call,wait, there was a holding call. Or the kicker misses the field goal attempt, he has missed a kick in the past, correct? Or is he the only kicker in league history to never miss a kick? Maybe this could have happened, the center executes a block, giving Ryan time to hit Jones in the enzone for a touchdown. Execute, execute, execute. The Patriots did, the Falcons did not. It's very simple.
" WORST EXECUTION EVER "

No they did not turn it over on a running play. It was 3rd and 1 from their 30, and they called a pass. Ryan was blindsided and fumbled. Another horrific call by Shanahan. RUN THE BALL. Even if you don't get the yard, you get to burn the clock more, punt, and not give NE the ball on the ATL 25.

ATL averaged 5 yards per carry in this game.

If a run play is called, there isn't any hold. ATL didn't have a penalty on a running play the entire game.

As far as Matt Bryant, who is a 15 year veteran, he went 34 of 37 this season, with two of those misses being outside 50 yards. His long was 59.

The FG was a 38 yard one on 2nd down. Even if ATL doesn't gain a single yard on 2nd, and 3rd, the only thing that took him out of FG range was a sack, or a penalty.

If you run the ball, you remove 50% of this possibility.

YOU DONT THROW THE BALL

As I've already stated to you, ATL lost because of bad play calling and not managing the clock properly. This is FACT, not all the CONJECTURE you propose as if what if this and what if that.

The bottom line is they didn't need to do ANYTHING after going up 25 EXCEPT burn the clock. Run the ball, don't turn it over, burn as much clock as possible. NE would not have had the time to score the touchdown that tied the game had they just done this.

Shanahan is such a BONEHEAD, when his "Forward the live brigade" calling finally put the team in position to make it a 2 score game with less then 3 minutes left, what does he do? He proceeds to throw the ball.

WORST PLAY CALLING EVER

If your in a boxing match that is a 12 rounder, and you win the first 9 rounds, you don't go for a knockout punch. You ride it out and win.

[3 SS's]

I love it........somebody knows exactly what would have happened if Atlanta ran the ball every play while being up by 25, can I have today's powerball #'s please.

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

No they did not turn it over on a running play. It was 3rd and 1 from their 30, and they called a pass. Ryan was blindsided and fumbled. Another horrific call by Shanahan. RUN THE BALL. Even if you don't get the yard, you get to burn the clock more, punt, and not give NE the ball on the ATL 25.

ATL averaged 5 yards per carry in this game.

If a run play is called, there isn't any hold. ATL didn't have a penalty on a running play the entire game.

As far as Matt Bryant, who is a 15 year veteran, he went 34 of 37 this season, with two of those misses being outside 50 yards. His long was 59.

The FG was a 38 yard one on 2nd down. Even if ATL doesn't gain a single yard on 2nd, and 3rd, the only thing that took him out of FG range was a sack, or a penalty.

If you run the ball, you remove 50% of this possibility.

YOU DONT THROW THE BALL

As I've already stated to you, ATL lost because of bad play calling and not managing the clock properly. This is FACT, not all the CONJECTURE you propose as if what if this and what if that.

The bottom line is they didn't need to do ANYTHING after going up 25 EXCEPT burn the clock. Run the ball, don't turn it over, burn as much clock as possible. NE would not have had the time to score the touchdown that tied the game had they just done this.

Shanahan is such a BONEHEAD, when his "Forward the live brigade" calling finally put the team in position to make it a 2 score game with less then 3 minutes left, what does he do? He proceeds to throw the ball.

WORST PLAY CALLING EVER

If your in a boxing match that is a 12 rounder, and you win the first 9 rounds, you don't go for a knockout punch. You ride it out and win.

LOL, now you know that there would be no holding calls on running plays, what yd line the punts would have ended up on, dude....give it a rest, it's over!!!

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

I love it........somebody knows exactly what would have happened if Atlanta ran the ball every play while being up by 25, can I have today's powerball #'s please.

Yes they burn 10 minutes off the clock instead of 6.5. NE doesn't have time to score the touchdown that ties the game.

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

LOL, now you know that there would be no holding calls on running plays, what yd line the punts would have ended up on, dude....give it a rest, it's over!!!

ATL didn't have a holding call on a run the ENTIRE game. Do you think the punt from their 36 (if they don't make the 3rd and 1 by running, instead of throwing the ball) is going backwards 9 yards to the 25?

You are delusional thinking that NE won only because of their play in the 4th quarter.

While it was fantastic, they needed Shanahan to make several bad decisions as well, which he did.

Had ATL just played the percentages (run down the clock), they were a 99% favorite to win. This is not conjecture, it's 100% fact.

WORST PLAY CALLING EVER

[Royal Tiger]

I loved the outcome of the game. I call it Michael Vick payback karma. It's why the Eagles will never win either.

[Kenny Camaro]

Here's the 100% fact, the Patriots won the game, the Falcons lost the game. Matt Ryan can't carry Tom Brady's jock. Look, according to some people, Brady 'only' played good in the fourth quarter, and still won his 5th Super Bowl. Polish that MVP trophy Matt, put on the mantel, right next too your hopes and dreams of one day winning the SuperBowl, just pray if you ever make it back that Tom Brady isn't on the other sideline. And that Joe M 2012 2SS is your O.C.

[Kenny Camaro]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

I love it........somebody knows exactly what would have happened if Atlanta ran the ball every play while being up by 25, can I have today's powerball #'s please.

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[CFD]

Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

Yes they burn 10 minutes off the clock instead of 6.5. NE doesn't have time to score the touchdown that ties the game.



ATL didn't have a holding call on a run the ENTIRE game. Do you think the punt from their 36 (if they don't make the 3rd and 1 by running, instead of throwing the ball) is going backwards 9 yards to the 25?

You are delusional thinking that NE won only because of their play in the 4th quarter.

While it was fantastic, they needed Shanahan to make several bad decisions as well, which he did.

Had ATL just played the percentages (run down the clock), they were a 99% favorite to win. This is not conjecture, it's 100% fact.

WORST PLAY CALLING EVER

Just curious, what would have happened if the punt was blocked and recovered by NE? Wouldn't be the first time. There are so many variables in a game, you can guess and speculate all day and night but you never know until it happens.

[Dmpsix]

Here's an awesome detail by detail by detail by DETAIL (this is what this thread needs) breakdown on what play lead to the Patriots winning.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/greg-co...195345367.html