#60 injectors where to buy for maggy? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

lionssfan · 02-16-2012, 09:26 PM

anyone know where to buy the #60 injectors by siemens for the tvs2300 magnuson super charger. some of there kits they sell the #60 injector instead of the #52 in ther kits. livernois motorspots sells these #60 injectors. anyone familiar with this injector and part number like the ones livernois has in there builds. best price to buy from. I'm installing a used maggy and would like these. thanks

SC2150 · 02-17-2012, 09:26 AM

We have custom built no better quality, spray pattern, and operation if you want the ultimate.....or standard 60#'s as well.

jrpxxii · 02-17-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

We have custom built no better quality, spray pattern, and operation if you want the ultimate.....or standard 60#'s as well.

I'm sure he meant better custom injectors

Jon@MagnaCharger · 02-17-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lionssfan

anyone know where to buy the #60 injectors by siemens for the tvs2300 magnuson super charger. some of there kits they sell the #60 injector instead of the #52 in ther kits. livernois motorspots sells these #60 injectors. anyone familiar with this injector and part number like the ones livernois has in there builds. best price to buy from. I'm installing a used maggy and would like these. thanks

What ever injectors you go with make sure they have the same height and mounting depth as the GM LS9 Injector. If they are not you might run into clearance issues with the rear pulley-fuel rail clearance. If by the 60lb injectors we use in some of our kits you are referring to the Mototron S107 injectors then there might be some slight compatibility issues with the Camaro Supercharger. The S107s are the same height (length) as the LS9 injector but mount higher. Also, the injector plugs are the "LS1" (EV1) style not the EV6/USCAR type the Camaro uses. If you need larger injectors I have seen a lot of guys going with Injector Dynamics (ID) injectors. I have no personal experience with them and can't personally recommend them but i believe they are reworked LS9 Injectors so they should be a fairly direct bolt-on.

But the other thing to consider is if you really NEED 60lb injectors. The 52lb LS9 injectors are typically good up to 575-600-ish rear wheel hp. The critical component is whether you have enough fuel pump volume to supply them. What modifications do you have done to your Camaro to go along with the supercharger?

lionssfan · 02-17-2012, 10:26 PM

Thanks for chiming in. I understand now siemens Deka injectors are the same as the Mototron s107. I will be getting more information monday from magnuson. I understand livernos motorsports is using the #60 injectors mototron now but not sure on the part number. so as far as the connector problem goes is there a connector adaptor to make it work? They just werent crazy about running the ls9s. I said the same thing, why not? that's so a cam can be added and they see your at your max on wot. And start seeing some leaning out conditions was the best I could understand. he did later say we could probable run the 52lbs thou. so go figure. if there is any question on leaning out or a better injector I'd rather get the better injector.
I have kooks headers, corsa exhaust, high flow cats, CAI intake, race scoop, ported throttle body, ls3 engine. cam down the road most likely. I also want to do what will make my tuner succeed in giving me my best tune. So how can you tell by looking at the injector if it's a mototron s107 thanks

JANNETTYRACING · 02-20-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lionssfan

Thanks for chiming in. I understand now siemens Deka injectors are the same as the Mototron s107. I will be getting more information monday from magnuson. I understand livernos motorsports is using the #60 injectors mototron now but not sure on the part number. so as far as the connector problem goes is there a connector adaptor to make it work? They just werent crazy about running the ls9s. I said the same thing, why not? that's so a cam can be added and they see your at your max on wot. And start seeing some leaning out conditions was the best I could understand. he did later say we could probable run the 52lbs thou. so go figure. if there is any question on leaning out or a better injector I'd rather get the better injector.
I have kooks headers, corsa exhaust, high flow cats, CAI intake, race scoop, ported throttle body, ls3 engine. cam down the road most likely. I also want to do what will make my tuner succeed in giving me my best tune. So how can you tell by looking at the injector if it's a mototron s107 thanks

Go with ID-850s now and when you add the cam you won't have to change the injectors and it will reduce tuning time after the cam.

lionssfan · 02-20-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Go with ID-850s now and when you add the cam you won't have to change the injectors and it will reduce tuning time after the cam.

I was told I won't have to change the injectors with a stage 2 cam and the zl1 pump and maggy supercharger?

JANNETTYRACING · 02-21-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lionssfan

I was told I won't have to change the injectors with a stage 2 cam and the zl1 pump and maggy supercharger?

The really depends on Which Pulley you install with the Cam, we have maxed out the Maggie Injectors Many times and Very Easily with our Cams.

Ted.

Blue70SS · 03-02-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

The really depends on Which Pulley you install with the Cam, we have maxed out the Maggie Injectors Many times and Very Easily with our Cams.

Ted.

So Ted to clarify, what's the max HP the ID850's support at 80% DC?

Double checking my figures..... looks like 900 flywheel HP needs 84 lb injectors and 886 cc/min at 43.5 psi, then converting flow to 58 psi - turns into 1023 cc/min. So if I'm correct - these would support 1040 Flywheel HP at 80% DC (~884 RWHP @ 15% drivetrain loss) .... essentially acting like 97.5 injectors at 43.5 psi?

http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4

JANNETTYRACING · 03-02-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue70SS

So Ted to clarify, what's the max HP the ID850's support at 80% DC?

Double checking my figures..... looks like 900 flywheel HP needs 84 lb injectors and 886 cc/min at 43.5 psi, then converting flow to 58 psi - turns into 1023 cc/min. So if I'm correct - these would support 1040 Flywheel HP at 80% DC (~884 RWHP @ 15% drivetrain loss) .... essentially acting like 97.5 injectors at 43.5 psi?

http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4

ID 850s INJECTOR DYNAMICS 1025 cc or 96 LB HR AT 58 PSI

Lots and Lots of Room To grow.

Ted.

Blue70SS · 03-02-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

ID 850s INJECTOR DYNAMICS 1025 cc or 96 LB HR AT 58 PSI

Lots and Lots of Room To grow.

Ted.

Just found the flow data page, 1025cc @ 60 PSI and 14V. Ours operate at 14V I presume, being a 12V battery?

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID850.html#Dynamic Flow Rate and Dead Time Summary

Meister@Torq · 03-02-2012, 03:55 PM

We will get you the BEST price on these.

gnturboray · 03-03-2012, 08:41 PM

When I upgraded to a cam, I installed the ZL1 fp along with 65lb inj with no fuel delivery issues.

02-16-2012, 09:26 PM	#1
lionssfan Drives: 2010 2ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: mi Posts: 1,184 View My Garage	#60 injectors where to buy for maggy? anyone know where to buy the #60 injectors by siemens for the tvs2300 magnuson super charger. some of there kits they sell the #60 injector instead of the #52 in ther kits. livernois motorspots sells these #60 injectors. anyone familiar with this injector and part number like the ones livernois has in there builds. best price to buy from. I'm installing a used maggy and would like these. thanks

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