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JusticePete · 09-02-2010, 09:16 AM

FYI -- When you run the CTS-V brakes really hard they do change color. So far it is just the front calipers. We'll try harder the next time out.

Maybe we should call this the 5th Gen Gold Package?

Sack Rat 2SS · 09-02-2010, 09:37 AM

Interesting bout color change. Like going from silver to gold medal, right? They still look awesome. I do not track my car so calipers are still silver. I have only done several progressive max effort stops to bed in the pads and do some heat seasoning of the rotors. I drove normal for about 100 miles before the max effort stops. The Z-28 is going to be some animal when it gets here.

JusticePete · 09-08-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sack Rat 2SS

Interesting bout color change. Like going from silver to gold medal, right? They still look awesome. I do not track my car so calipers are still silver. I have only done several progressive max effort stops to bed in the pads and do some heat seasoning of the rotors. I drove normal for about 100 miles before the max effort stops. The Z-28 is going to be some animal when it gets here.

Do you notice any differences in low speed pad noise between the CTS-V and the SS stock setup

Sack Rat 2SS · 09-08-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Do you notice any differences in low speed pad noise between the CTS-V and the SS stock setup

None at all. Still very quiet. Even with my stockers I never had brake squeek even when I removed the stick on weights from the calipers. 'So far so good with my CTS -V package. Any changes on your vehicle?

JusticePete · 09-08-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sack Rat 2SS

None at all. Still very quiet. Even with my stockers I never had brake squeek even when I removed the stick on weights from the calipers. 'So far so good with my CTS -V package. Any changes on your vehicle?

My experience was similar to yours. When I ran the OE CTS-V pads they may have been quieter than my SS pads. With the Cobalt Friction racing pads I occasionally shatter store front windows.

Sack Rat 2SS · 09-08-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

My experience was similar to yours. When I ran the OE CTS-V pads they may have been quieter than my SS pads. With the Cobalt Friction racing pads I occasionally shatter store front windows.

That is good to know. I do not plan on tracking or autocrossing. Maybe a trip to drag strip at some point, not the same as roundy racing. I will replace with factory CTS pads as the price is right and generally only light to moderate dusting on the front wheels. Dusting about same as or better than the factory SS pads.

OldJedi · 09-09-2010, 08:06 PM

Pete,
Thanks for being so patient and answering all of our questions. Can you tell me why on the six piston Brembos used on the CTS-V and Z-28 why two of the brake caliper pistons are much larger than the third smaller piston? Will this make for uneven brake pad wear because of a smaller piston/bearing surface and possibly a different amount of force being placed on to the pad from the smaller piston? Thanks for the help.

JusticePete · 09-10-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi

Pete,
Thanks for being so patient and answering all of our questions. Can you tell me why on the six piston Brembos used on the CTS-V and Z-28 why two of the brake caliper pistons are much larger than the third smaller piston? Will this make for uneven brake pad wear because of a smaller piston/bearing surface and possibly a different amount of force being placed on to the pad from the smaller piston? Thanks for the help.

Now worries mate.

When the brake caliper 'clamps' there is more force required on the leading edge and progressively less. On very high quality calipers it is not unusual to see three or four different piston sizes. The net effect is improved braking and more even pad wear.

OldJedi · 09-11-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Now worries mate.

When the brake caliper 'clamps' there is more force required on the leading edge and progressively less. On very high quality calipers it is not unusual to see three or four different piston sizes. The net effect is improved braking and more even pad wear.

OK thanks Pete, I appreciate the information.

Victoryred69 · 09-12-2010, 05:38 PM

i have a question... do you think it would be pretty much the same for the v6 camaro brake upgrade???

JusticePete · 09-14-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Victoryred69

i have a question... do you think it would be pretty much the same for the v6 camaro brake upgrade???

I will have to check on that.

JusticePete · 09-14-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Victoryred69

i have a question... do you think it would be pretty much the same for the v6 camaro brake upgrade???

The answer is yes.

LT1Jeep · 11-14-2010, 07:53 PM

after reading about this swap and looking at parts lists on here and other sites, i wanted to check something. i saw somewhere say you needed to order the pins separately but then on gmpd i see the pin as listed included with the pad. so im guessing that if you order gm ctsv pads your ok, but if you wanna run aftermarket pads you need to order the pin kit too.
and second, can you run the stock ss brake hose or are you required to upgrade due to the swap?

thanks

Sack Rat 2SS · 11-14-2010, 08:28 PM

Do not know bout the pins, however, the brake hose into the caliper is located in the middle of the caliper on CTS, not top as on SS, and will require a longer line. Not for sure but you might use the longer ones from the rear. But, check it out first. I used four braided lines that were made for the rear. Good Luck

09-02-2010, 09:37 AM	#156
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 884	Interesting bout color change. Like going from silver to gold medal, right? They still look awesome. I do not track my car so calipers are still silver. I have only done several progressive max effort stops to bed in the pads and do some heat seasoning of the rotors. I drove normal for about 100 miles before the max effort stops. The Z-28 is going to be some animal when it gets here. __________________ Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

09-09-2010, 08:06 PM	#161
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	Pete, Thanks for being so patient and answering all of our questions. Can you tell me why on the six piston Brembos used on the CTS-V and Z-28 why two of the brake caliper pistons are much larger than the third smaller piston? Will this make for uneven brake pad wear because of a smaller piston/bearing surface and possibly a different amount of force being placed on to the pad from the smaller piston? Thanks for the help. __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1!

11-14-2010, 07:53 PM	#167
LT1Jeep Ecstatic Camaro SS Owner Drives: Jeep(s) [1in pieces] and 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 319 View My Garage	after reading about this swap and looking at parts lists on here and other sites, i wanted to check something. i saw somewhere say you needed to order the pins separately but then on gmpd i see the pin as listed included with the pad. so im guessing that if you order gm ctsv pads your ok, but if you wanna run aftermarket pads you need to order the pin kit too. and second, can you run the stock ss brake hose or are you required to upgrade due to the swap? thanks __________________

11-14-2010, 08:28 PM	#168
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 884	Do not know bout the pins, however, the brake hose into the caliper is located in the middle of the caliper on CTS, not top as on SS, and will require a longer line. Not for sure but you might use the longer ones from the rear. But, check it out first. I used four braided lines that were made for the rear. Good Luck __________________ Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

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09-02-2010, 09:16 AM	#155
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	FYI -- When you run the CTS-V brakes really hard they do change color. So far it is just the front calipers. We'll try harder the next time out. Maybe we should call this the 5th Gen Gold Package?

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