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gajagfan · 03-23-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

How many miles are on the car? I have 16k and 7 or 8 track days, with no issues yet (fingers crossed)

So your problems were strictly tranny and not clutch right?

backeddy · 03-23-2015, 02:41 PM

Not sure yet.....so I cannot say either way, unlike the OP mine is not a sudden onset problem, that will most likely get worse, but a design flaw from day 1....my guess it is the master not moving enough fluid when hot. I have 6 more track days before I am tearing it all out, hope it lasts.......

cornerspeed92 · 03-23-2015, 03:14 PM

I assume you saw my thread?

backeddy · 03-23-2015, 03:38 PM

Corner have you had any more issues since the change out?

White_SS/RS · 03-23-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cornerspeed92

I assume you saw my thread?

Yup I'm familiar with it, sounds like you got a great solution from Steve. Hopefully mine is just a bearing issue and I wont end up with an entire clutch replacement. I haven't looked into it other than noticing the pedal feedback is rough, so I'm not 100% sure of the damage yet. I will, however, upgrade a few things if I'm going to be taking it apart. Whatever the issue may be, I know I won't bother with taking it to the dealer and will be doing the work myself. Wish I had a dealer that was as friendly as yours.

Steve@SNL/Monster Clutch · 03-23-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by White_SS/RS

Well I do track it. Seems my clutch time has come like so many others. Lol. Do I just need the slave assembly to fix the issue? What are my options?

Lol, the stock clutch (as most are finding out) is not up to the task of abuse with the weight of the Gen 5 Camaro.

It's more than likely that its just the bearing that needs to be replaced, however you can only get a new release bearing by purchasing the entire slave. Also the stock plastic bearing support needs to be thrown in the trash, and replaced with billet steel.

cornerspeed92 · 03-23-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

Corner have you had any more issues since the change out?

No, but i have a 500 (at 300 today) mile city driving break in period so no hard driving. I have however been letting the rear end slide around as i need to burn off what's left of my tires so i can get my new tires for COTA installed. I have stepped on it getting on the FRWY and the point where my old clutch would fade away is no longer happening. Im quite confident in Steve's clutch.

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Originally Posted by White_SS/RS

Yup I'm familiar with it, sounds like you got a great solution from Steve. Hopefully mine is just a bearing issue and I wont end up with an entire clutch replacement. I haven't looked into it other than noticing the pedal feedback is rough, so I'm not 100% sure of the damage yet. I will, however, upgrade a few things if I'm going to be taking it apart. Whatever the issue may be, I know I won't bother with taking it to the dealer and will be doing the work myself. Wish I had a dealer that was as friendly as yours.

Ok good then. That pic Steve put up is very disturbing about that plastic bearing. I do have to say though, i have driven my car as hard as anyone could of. If you remember i got the home page last year for my blistering laps/session at Fontana last year, and i wasn't heal/toe driving, which means i was putting super heat on the clutch. My plastic bearing was in perfect condition, but i replaced it with Steve's Billet one anyway. What im getting at is apparently the clutch is the major issue(weak link) i think facing us. I would still replace with what Steve has as well as just go with his clutch, it's far superior to what we have stock. Again Customer services absence here is deafening, they obviously know they have a major issue on their hands.

jcamo · 03-23-2015, 07:15 PM

Really sucks hearing this... As I have driven mine really mildly (sunny sunday car). sounds like It won't last long when I start twisting the wick on this load.

backeddy · 03-23-2015, 09:28 PM

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Again Customer services absence here is deafening, they obviously know they have a major issue on their hands.

..............................................( crickets chirping )............................................

Bizaro · 03-23-2015, 09:50 PM

Forget GM customer service all they will tell you is bring the car to the dealership which in turn will tell you "its not covered under warranty blah blah blah not our fault we found evidence of abuse please give us all your money" Ive had so many problems now (gear grinding, clutch not disengaging fully, clutch vibrations, ) ive stopped driving my 1le in total just from pure disappointment.

backeddy · 03-23-2015, 10:15 PM

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ive stopped driving my 1le in total just from pure disappointment.

Funny you say that...about 2 weeks ago I started taking the MBZ and gave my wife the 1LE to put around town in..Only thing I care about now is going to the track.

Bizaro · 03-23-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

Funny you say that...about 2 weeks ago I started taking the MBZ and gave my wife the 1LE to put around town in..Only thing I care about now is going to the track.

I hear you... make sure you take some photos of the teardown I would really like to see whats crapping out in our vehicles. Im really considering tearing down my transmission myself I just wish I knew someone with a lift in NY.

markgws6 · 03-24-2015, 05:10 PM

I think for those who visit the track often, you'll probably want to eventually replace the entire clutch with a more solid unit that can take more heat and won't slip. Having a heavy-duty clutch in this car should have been mandatory. They beefed up most other parts, I fail to understand why they cheaped out on the clutch... Hopefully the next gen 1LE does not have this issue. I plan to replace the entire unit if and when it starts to fail.

White_SS/RS · 03-28-2015, 03:27 PM

Haven't drove the car in a week since the last track day. Has a nice whir sound to it on cold start up. The feel has smoothed out a bit but I can only image that's because it's slowley grinding itself to death. Clutch still holds but for how much longer is anyone's guess. It will probably be a bit before I get it apart and really asses the damage.

The car really took a beating this last event, needs new tires, new pads, and new clutch. So much for the headers I was planning on! Lol

03-23-2015, 03:14 PM	#17
cornerspeed92 Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,188 View My Garage	I assume you saw my thread? __________________

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markgws6 Drives: 2019 Chevy Equinox Premier AWD Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 1,344 View My Garage	I think for those who visit the track often, you'll probably want to eventually replace the entire clutch with a more solid unit that can take more heat and won't slip. Having a heavy-duty clutch in this car should have been mandatory. They beefed up most other parts, I fail to understand why they cheaped out on the clutch... Hopefully the next gen 1LE does not have this issue. I plan to replace the entire unit if and when it starts to fail. __________________ 2013 AGM 1SS/1LE, NPP, Camera (1 of 43)

03-28-2015, 03:27 PM	#28
White_SS/RS Drives: 14 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,567	Haven't drove the car in a week since the last track day. Has a nice whir sound to it on cold start up. The feel has smoothed out a bit but I can only image that's because it's slowley grinding itself to death. Clutch still holds but for how much longer is anyone's guess. It will probably be a bit before I get it apart and really asses the damage. The car really took a beating this last event, needs new tires, new pads, and new clutch. So much for the headers I was planning on! Lol __________________ LMS Engineering

03-23-2015, 02:41 PM	#16
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	Not sure yet.....so I cannot say either way, unlike the OP mine is not a sudden onset problem, that will most likely get worse, but a design flaw from day 1....my guess it is the master not moving enough fluid when hot. I have 6 more track days before I am tearing it all out, hope it lasts.......

03-23-2015, 03:38 PM	#18
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	Corner have you had any more issues since the change out?

03-23-2015, 07:15 PM	#22
jcamo Drives: 2ss/rs/2013 camaro 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: missouri Posts: 107	Really sucks hearing this... As I have driven mine really mildly (sunny sunday car). sounds like It won't last long when I start twisting the wick on this load.

03-23-2015, 09:50 PM	#24
Bizaro Account Suspended Drives: 2015 Redhot 1LE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 1,409	Forget GM customer service all they will tell you is bring the car to the dealership which in turn will tell you "its not covered under warranty blah blah blah not our fault we found evidence of abuse please give us all your money" Ive had so many problems now (gear grinding, clutch not disengaging fully, clutch vibrations, ) ive stopped driving my 1le in total just from pure disappointment.