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Fiftydriver · 04-17-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFox1

my 2012 L99 doesn't chirp tires or spin them either..a nd doesn't feel fast at all..

HOWEVER.. the speedometer tells a very different story. It's hard to do any hard pulls without pulling well beyond my target speed. (Ie 0-60 winds up being 0-73 or something..)

in traffic, I'm constantly edged out by other cars in 1st and 2nd.. only to almost rearend them in 3rd.

as L99 owners we have a lot of power robbing crap to deal with.. torque management, DOD/AFM, VVT.. torque management.. (its worth mentioning twice..)

My gmc truck was a DOG on the road when I got it. I would routinely floor it everywhere just to get around htis city.

I eventually broke down and had a tune. They took out torque management.. now I can hardly drive the thing in the rain.. totally stock!

I think a good tune getting rid of torque management is what we both need. A good adjustment to the TCM woudln't hurt either. I'm tired of my car trying to go into 4th at 25mph at the bottom of a hill.

Thats your torque management holding you back in 1st and 2nd gear. TURN IT OFF and you will be able to take full advantage of the low gear ratio in the trans to launch very hard.

DOD/AFM should not effect you off the line, these only turn on at cruise speeds, when oil pressure rises they turn off the way I understand it.

I turned those off as well and plan to soon eliminate them totally with an LS3 conversion.

PQ · 04-17-2012, 02:50 PM

Keep in mind too that you won't always hear the tires. They might be breaking loose and not creaming but just sliding. Mine RARELY screached. Just spun.

simes007us · 04-17-2012, 04:07 PM

I also know the feeling that my car is slow or sluggish. For example sitting in a 460 horsepower Aston martin V8 Vantage I get a rush from the speed whereas flooring it in my car I don't get the same sensation. I don't think 60 horsepower can make this big of a difference.

I have a strange feeling it is something to do with theater though. The noise coming out of the back of an Aston is frankly astonishing (did you see what i did there?) it really gives the sense of pressing the gas peddle has actually done something.

Coyotekiller · 04-17-2012, 04:18 PM

Needs more gear.

Scalded Dog · 04-17-2012, 04:38 PM

Whenever I am in an Aston Martin, all I'm really thinking about is what the double agent riding with me has planned, and whether or not I can still make her worth my time first...

simes007us · 04-17-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scalded Dog

Whenever I am in an Aston Martin, all I'm really thinking about is what the double agent riding with me has planned, and whether or not I can still make her worth my time first...

It is nice to see machine gun headlights on the options list...

Scalded Dog · 04-17-2012, 04:54 PM

... and there is NOTHING wrong with a smoke screen, underwater capabilities, or a martini dispenser in the console...

Every Aston Martin I have EVER had was equipped with all of those, of course.

simes007us · 04-17-2012, 05:06 PM

They do offer a $400 umbrella that can fit in the straps of your trunk....lol

daveagogo1 · 04-17-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PercyJWellingtonIII

Doing that is no indication of power. You can do that in a toyota tercel if its rear wheel drive.

Read the OPS ENTIRE post. He specifically states he can barely spin the tires.And has been playing with T/C and such. THIS is what i'm referring to. I am very aware any vehicle can burnout unless your doing it wrong like so many people seem to.

DarkFox1 · 04-17-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

Thats your torque management holding you back in 1st and 2nd gear. TURN IT OFF and you will be able to take full advantage of the low gear ratio in the trans to launch very hard.

DOD/AFM should not effect you off the line, these only turn on at cruise speeds, when oil pressure rises they turn off the way I understand it.

I turned those off as well and plan to soon eliminate them totally with an LS3 conversion.

Is this something you have to tune out? It was on my truck..

on the way home I held the button down and disabled both systems. It seemed a LITTLE peppier.. but that may have been my mind playing tricks on me.

After it rained I turned off just traction control and stomped it.. it wouldn't spin. I stopped and turned off both and tried again.. it spun pretty easily then.

CamaroKid300 · 04-17-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFox1

After it rained I turned off just traction control and stomped it.. it wouldn't spin.

Seriously? I can't keep traction after it rained with all my nannies on.

DarkFox1 · 04-17-2012, 07:45 PM

Nope. I got to about 45mph wide open before I let off and stopped. It wasn't spinning at all. Had to turn them both off to get it to spin.

CamaroKid300 · 04-17-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFox1

Nope. I got to about 45mph wide open before I let off and stopped. It wasn't spinning at all. Had to turn them both off to get it to spin.

I mean i don't spin long cause TC and STAB stop it but I can let out, punch it, and feel it hoppin a bit and then it stops when TC light flashes.

dawgsfan · 04-17-2012, 08:01 PM

I promise I know how to do a burnout or atleas in an older car that's not ran by a computer. The problem I've been having is either the tc is still on or something cause once it starts its line it just looses power or something. It's been raining so I haven't been able to try it but I'm almost sure I didn't have the tc turned off line I thought I did. I love this site w/all the answers I get plus getting to see all the upgrades that everyone has done. I'm old school. Usually all my fast cars don't have computers except my 67 camaro which I'm putting an LS in now.
Why is everyone doing the LS3 conversion on their new camaro & also why is everyone running a catch can?

04-17-2012, 02:50 PM	#44
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Keep in mind too that you won't always hear the tires. They might be breaking loose and not creaming but just sliding. Mine RARELY screached. Just spun. __________________

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04-17-2012, 04:07 PM	#45
simes007us Drives: Black 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 42 View My Garage	I also know the feeling that my car is slow or sluggish. For example sitting in a 460 horsepower Aston martin V8 Vantage I get a rush from the speed whereas flooring it in my car I don't get the same sensation. I don't think 60 horsepower can make this big of a difference. I have a strange feeling it is something to do with theater though. The noise coming out of the back of an Aston is frankly astonishing (did you see what i did there?) it really gives the sense of pressing the gas peddle has actually done something.

04-17-2012, 04:18 PM	#46
Coyotekiller Account Suspended Drives: 2012 AGM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beaufort, NC Posts: 1,383	Needs more gear.

04-17-2012, 04:38 PM	#47
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	Whenever I am in an Aston Martin, all I'm really thinking about is what the double agent riding with me has planned, and whether or not I can still make her worth my time first...

04-17-2012, 04:54 PM	#49
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	... and there is NOTHING wrong with a smoke screen, underwater capabilities, or a martini dispenser in the console... Every Aston Martin I have EVER had was equipped with all of those, of course.

04-17-2012, 05:06 PM	#50
simes007us Drives: Black 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 42 View My Garage	They do offer a $400 umbrella that can fit in the straps of your trunk....lol

04-17-2012, 07:45 PM	#54
DarkFox1 Drives: 2012 2SS A6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Douglasville GA Posts: 647	Nope. I got to about 45mph wide open before I let off and stopped. It wasn't spinning at all. Had to turn them both off to get it to spin.

04-17-2012, 08:01 PM	#56
dawgsfan Drives: 2010 camaro rs/ss2 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: cumming, ga. Posts: 15	I promise I know how to do a burnout or atleas in an older car that's not ran by a computer. The problem I've been having is either the tc is still on or something cause once it starts its line it just looses power or something. It's been raining so I haven't been able to try it but I'm almost sure I didn't have the tc turned off line I thought I did. I love this site w/all the answers I get plus getting to see all the upgrades that everyone has done. I'm old school. Usually all my fast cars don't have computers except my 67 camaro which I'm putting an LS in now. Why is everyone doing the LS3 conversion on their new camaro & also why is everyone running a catch can?