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Old 04-25-2012, 12:07 AM   #3319
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I did not know you were planning on bumping the boost as high as possible but given that you are not swapping injectors or fuel pump I will stick with my original estimate.

Can you clarify something though?

Are your injector 93 lb/hr rated at 3 bar(43.5 psi) but you will be running your fuel pressure at 60 psi or 93 lb/hr rated at 4 bar(58 psi) aprox. 60 psi?

Also, you mentioned the nitrous will be a wet shot but will you be using the same in tank fuel pump to get fuel to the nitrous or with it have its own dedicated fuel system?


I ask because according to the Aero page the A1000 Camaro Stealth kit is good to 1000hp(probably crank hp) so that is going to be a limit unless the nitrous has its own fuel pump.

The injectors are good to 1300 hp(crank) if your BSFC is .55, the IDC is 80% and you are running them at 60 psi(but rated at 43.5 psi). Given a 15-18% drive train loss I would be close.

I installed 1000cc(95 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi) but they flow 108 lb/hr at 58 PSI.
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:23 AM   #3320
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Tune for the bigger turbos... And then put some miles and heat cycles on the trans and diff, and then see what he can do with boost and fuel... C-16...117 octane race fuel...

When I get back we'll finish the nitrous install and see what we see...

My prediction... ... Race fuel and nitrous ( Probably a 150 wet shot )

Hmmm... Taking guesses here...

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Just to make sure there is some interest... Last year I gave away a Henderson Performance Technology T-shirt and offered up a 5th of Crown Royal...so feel free to post up your best guess...

So Far...

Garcmol... 1430
carbon8... 1130
Mr Twisty... 1234
SRT10KLLR... 1080
Dangeruss... 1040
Happy Pappy... 1288
Kyle.Gilmour... 1287
rjdapilmoto... 1450
z28camaro2471... 1102
mlee... 1041
Tag Ur It... 1042 (editable for obvious reasons) he has the power... he can even go back and edit quoted material
PQ... 1240
Darth_Emma... 1195
Camaro21... 1225
Stieger... 1237
Racer778... ???
GTAHVIT... 1262
jrpxxii... 1183
fcu678... 1160
Speedster... 1231 average of 1212-1250
Dragoneye... 1187

Injectors are 93 lb/hr at 4 bar (58 psi) running them at 60 psi...

As for the wet shot of nitrous, it will be a stand alone system, with a SS tank under the hood, internal fuel pump, external regulator. We will have C-16 in the stand alone tank.

When I mentioned maxing out the boost, this was in reference to a safe amount of boost based on available fuel... I am verifying with Corey if we ordered the Stealth Fuel system or the Eliminator... I'll let you guys know...
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:44 AM   #3321
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I tried and my computer out here doesn't have enough system memory... This computer was built sometime around 1912...
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:07 AM   #3322
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I did not know you were planning on bumping the boost as high as possible but given that you are not swapping injectors or fuel pump I will stick with my original estimate.

Can you clarify something though?

Are your injector 93 lb/hr rated at 3 bar(43.5 psi) but you will be running your fuel pressure at 60 psi or 93 lb/hr rated at 4 bar(58 psi) aprox. 60 psi?

Also, you mentioned the nitrous will be a wet shot but will you be using the same in tank fuel pump to get fuel to the nitrous or with it have its own dedicated fuel system?

I ask because according to the Aero page the A1000 Camaro Stealth kit is good to 1000hp(probably crank hp) so that is going to be a limit unless the nitrous has its own fuel pump.

The injectors are good to 1300 hp(crank) if your BSFC is .55, the IDC is 80% and you are running them at 60 psi(but rated at 43.5 psi). Given a 15-18% drive train loss I would be close.

I installed 1000cc(95 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi) but they flow 108 lb/hr at 58 PSI.
Uh oh... for those of you that made a WAG based on what you knew about my build,

Here is something to consider... I posed the question to Corey about which pump we had ordered just to make sure... and here is the response...

"The eliminator pump. The A1000 wasn't much of an improvement on what we have now so that one was out"


This pump is capable of supporting 1400 HP in a forced induction car... It will have the pump speed controller and as mentioned before, the regulator on the return line with the boost sense fitting... Regardless of the manifold pressure, there will be 60 psi coming out of the rails... So, pump, new regulator, speed controller, and new rails...

I'll wait on the injectors and see what comes of these, but that isn't in the equation for this WAG contest...
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:34 AM   #3323
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Ha!!!! So my 1450 may be the highest guess right now, but not far-fetched. C'mon Robert! I know you can hit that mark, baby!!! LOL!!!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:56 PM   #3324
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The latest item ordered for lil Miss Brandi....
Why don't you make a guess too... if you win we'll just say you cheated
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:43 PM   #3326
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I might make a guess at some point... and if I picked a number right now I would stick with win loose or draw...
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:02 PM   #3327
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1300 figured to throw a guess in the hat
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:12 PM   #3328
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Tune for the bigger turbos... And then put some miles and heat cycles on the trans and diff, and then see what he can do with boost and fuel... C-16...117 octane race fuel...

When I get back we'll finish the nitrous install and see what we see...

My prediction... ... Race fuel and nitrous ( Probably a 150 wet shot )

Hmmm... Taking guesses here...

Feel free to post up... Anybody....A prize... Not yet determined to the winner... Closest without going over...

Just to make sure there is some interest... Last year I gave away a Henderson Performance Technology T-shirt and offered up a 5th of Crown Royal...so feel free to post up your best guess...

So Far...

Garcmol... 1430
carbon8... 1130
Mr Twisty... 1234
SRT10KLLR... 1080
Dangeruss... 1040
Happy Pappy... 1288
Kyle.Gilmour... 1287
rjdapilmoto... 1450
z28camaro2471... 1102
mlee... 1041
Tag Ur It... 1042 (editable for obvious reasons) he has the power... he can even go back and edit quoted material
PQ... 1240
Darth_Emma... 1195
Camaro21... 1225
Stieger... 1237
Racer778... ???
GTAHVIT... 1262
jrpxxii... 1183
fcu678... 1160
Speedster... 1231 average of 1212-1250
Dragoneye... 1187
Vette TPI... 1300

Injectors are 93 lb/hr at 4 bar (58 psi) running them at 60 psi...

As for the wet shot of nitrous, it will be a stand alone system, with a SS tank under the hood, internal fuel pump, external regulator. We will have C-16 in the stand alone tank.

When I mentioned maxing out the boost, this was in reference to a safe amount of boost based on available fuel... We ordered the Eliminator Fuel system from Aeromotive... Supports 1400 HP in a FI car...
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NOS is gonna be useless till you hit 150mph
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Why need NOS!!!...haha...so true, so true! 150ish and FOOOSH!
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Why need NOS!!!...haha...so true, so true! 150ish and FOOOSH!
Hmmm....should be a progressive shot, no? Not a "fast and the furious" we're going 150MPH so now we hit it to make it to 200 sort of thing. Probly a progressive feed...based on boost, etc?
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Why do a 110 mph burnout when you can smoke em at 150+...

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Why need NOS!!!...haha...so true, so true! 150ish and FOOOSH!
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Hmmm....should be a progressive shot, no? Not a "fast and the furious" we're going 150MPH so now we hit it to make it to 200 sort of thing. Probly a progressive feed...based on boost, etc?
I believe Corey mentioned a progressive set up... I certainly wouldn't want to HAVE to try to keep it in a straight line if a 150 shot hit on top of what's already there... in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and pretty much 4th, from 3500-4000 to the redline is only a moment in time already... I would probably have to go automatic then just to keep up with the motor...

Tach is 2000 + rpm behind the motor, and the driver is two gears behind the motor...
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